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To: enumerated
enumerated: "First of all, there is no need to put quotes on it - it was an invasion.
Secondly, you are wrong that many welcomed the invasion.
I would agree, however, that they did indeed welcome an end to slavery"

The quotes on "invasion" belong there because regions similar to the Appalachian mountains from NC to TN & WVA had few to no slaves in 1860, so voted against secession, and welcomed Union troops to protect them from Confederates.

enumerated: "My point is that Lincoln fought that tragic war to prevent the south from seceding - not to end slavery - but because the north needed the south to be politically and economically subservient - ironically, the north was tied the south as a vassal state - a slave state (ironically)."

A lot of your post here is true & understandable enough, but this sentence is a lie, or several lies wrapped into one sentence.
Begin here: Lincoln did not start the war, he responded to Confederate threats, provocations & starting war at Fort Sumter -- that was Jefferson Davis' choice, made despite warnings against it:

But Davis ignored Toombs' perfectly sound advice and the results were just as predicted.

Second, Civil War was indeed about preserving the Union, first, but Union leaders very quickly saw the destruction of Confederate slavery as necessary to military victory.
And since that matched exactly with Republican moral values, it soon became law (August 1861) and eventually the 13th Amendment.

Third, your claim that, "the north needed the south to be politically and economically subservient" is total, complete bovine excrement.
What the Union did need was the destruction of Confederacy and abolition of their slavery.
Once that was accomplished -- between 1865 & 1876 -- the South resumed its normal place in the Union.

enumerated: "“Preserving the Union” meant preserving the circumstance in which the northern industrialists’ could exert political dominance over the southern agricultural base.
It wasn’t an act of conscience in any way, shape or form."

And yet again the total lie.
You should stop lying, FRiend, no matter how good it feeeeels, lying is very bad for your soul, and will make you sick in the head.
So stop doing it, FRiend.
Once you get over "truth sickness" you'll feel much better, long term.

259 posted on 10/05/2021 5:17:45 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

“…swarm out and sting us to death.”

In other words, invade.


263 posted on 10/05/2021 7:08:14 PM PDT by enumerated
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