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> Total Medicare beneficiaries - 61.2 million. Average age, about 75. <

Thanks for pointing that out. So 0.08% of Medicare folks died soon after getting the vaccine. Is that cause for alarm? I don’t think so.

And here’s one thing that bothers me about this whole Covid mess. The pro-vaxxers want to blame every death on Covid. The anti-vaxxers want to blame every death on the vaccine. Both sides shamelessly manipulate the data to suit their purpose.

I actually think that there’s not a single honest source left in this debate.


7 posted on 10/01/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Well that’s just it.....it’s been made so highly political and the debates are endless on both sides of the issue. Sooooo we’re still basically left to decide for ourselves what risk we’re willing to take .....

We know there’s a virus that’s making people sick. We also know the shots are highly questionable short and long term. We know their are treatments if you get it and things you can do to protect yourself as much as possible from getting it or at least lessen the impact if you do.

I’ve weighed in on not taking the shot. Had an uneasy sense in the beginning about it and have yet to have a sense it’s the way to go.


11 posted on 10/01/2021 8:05:16 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Leaning Right

I actually think that there’s not a single honest source left in this debate

Needed repeating!

20 posted on 10/01/2021 8:30:40 PM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siati armati!)
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I agree. A 50 year old casual acquaintance of several years told me 2 male friends died one of a blood clot and the other a heart attack within 48 hours after getting vaccinated.

A coworker early 50s got the variant version and was real sick for 2 weeks. His doctor was about to put him on a respirator and asked him if would like to try an “experimental drug”? He asked what it was and doctor said ivermectin. He took it and had a complete turnaround in less than 24 hours. He believes it saved his life.
These are 3 examples that make you not want to trust the CDC or the party in power now. I choose not to take the vaccines and my government wants to starve me and put me out in the street.
My feelings are next they’ll be rounding us up and putting us in a camp. What could happen there is anyones quess. God help us.


28 posted on 10/01/2021 10:23:45 PM PDT by bittersweetmdn
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To: Leaning Right

IMHO, here is your honest source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dOsB-nWof8


30 posted on 10/01/2021 10:40:46 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: Leaning Right

That may be true.

However, what is not open for debate is that the novel corona virus manipulated our economy and the American people...It was used to:

1. attempt to control our children thru zoom learning, masks and distancing.

2. facilitate questionable election practices such as sending out ballots to all citizens of a state sans checking the voter rolls and installing unattended ballot drop boxes.

3. allow big box stores to remain open while smaller local competitors were often deemed non-essential.

4. employee quarantine procedures that contributed tossive numbers of nursing home deaths,

5. prohibit worship in church, limit family gatherings, travel postponed weddings, etc....

6. enable never-ending extra-Constitutional powers

7. enable unbridled profligate spending.

8. further Balkanize a divided nation.

9. enable unlimited, never-ending erosion of citizens rights and personal privacy.

That said, I tend to accept the facts/data being presented by those who put it all on the line to do so (Malone, Cole, Marik, Kory) versus those who are being handsomely rewarded
to go with the company line (Fauci, Walensky, et. al).

FREEgards.


33 posted on 10/01/2021 11:02:42 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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