From that site you linked:
Posted on 09/29/2021 11:11:52 AM PDT by rxsid
Nearly 50k Medicare patients died soon after getting COVID shot: whistleblower
‘They are lying. There is no question they are lying,’ said Attorney Renz. ‘The mantra of ‘safe and effective' must stop after today’s information.’
A whistleblower has provided government data documenting 48,465 deaths within 14 days of COVID-19 vaccination among Medicare patients alone, according to medical freedom rights attorney Thomas Renz.
The announcement Saturday was made by the Ohio-based attorney, who remains involved in several major cases brought against federal agencies relating to fraud and violations of medical freedom rights.
In his presentation, Renz expressed his appreciation for whistleblowers who were coming forward to provide the public with such important information from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Service (CMS). He described the CMS database as the largest available in the U.S. for the study of COVID-19 trends because it contains the data of approximately 59.4 million Medicare beneficiaries.
One slide showed that the number of “persons who died within 14 days of a COVID-19 vaccine” equated to 19,400 for those younger than 81 years old, and 28,065 for those 81 and over, totaling 48,465 deaths.
“This is raw data,” Renz explained. “There’s no analysis.” And, he emphasized, these death numbers are from less than 20% of the U.S. population.
“Do you want to know why 14 days is important?” he asked. “Because if you die with 14 days, you’re not considered vaccinated.” According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), one is not considered as being “vaccinated” until 14 days after their completed injection regimen, raising the question of whether government authorities have been classifying these fatalities as something other than vaccination-related deaths.
Renz provided screenshots of the “raw data from the Medicare servers,” calling it “a present for the scumbag ‘fact-checkers’ who keep lying.”
“And what I want to know, are you going to fact check the HHS now?” he taunted. “Are you going to fact-check Fauci?”
In July, a whistleblower who works professionally as a computer programmer in health care data analytics, made a declaration under penalty of perjury that CMS data revealed “at least 45,000” vaccine-related deaths due to experimental COVID-19 vaccine injections. USA Today and others “fact-checked” the claim and called it misinformation.
A press release on Renz’s website responds, “Today’s revelations solidify that the ’Trusted News Initiative’ is actually the source of misinformation and propaganda, and that [the] Attorney Thomas Renz Whistleblower was correct all along.”
Since the roll-out of the COVID-19 gene-based vaccines began last December, with adverse reactions, including death, being passively reported on the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), many have believed the actual numbers of injuries to be much higher.
The most recent data from the CDC’s VAERS system released last Friday reveals reports of 726,965 adverse events in the U.S. following vaccination, including 15,386 reports of deaths and 99,410 reports of serious injuries, between December 14, 2020, and September 17.
Yet the presumption of significantly higher real numbers is supported by a 2010 Harvard Pilgrim study which found that “fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries” are reported on VAERS. In addition, even vaccine manufacturers have calculated at least a “fifty-fold underreporting of adverse events” on this system.
Further, a recent whistleblower report from Project Veritas reveals medical personnel in federal hospitals confirming the presence of many patients suffering from COVID vaccine injuries, yet “nobody” reports them to VAERS.
Renz also provided evidence affirming that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has been using this same CMS data to monitor different types of adverse reactions to the injections in “near real time,” even while these government agencies and the media continue to repeat that this gene-based vaccine is “safe and effective.”
Displaying data of Medicare beneficiaries in the State of New York alone revealed thousands of cardiovascular events, cases of COVID-19, and deaths among a total of 16 tracked adverse events.
“Remember, these are ‘side effects’ that the government, media, and social media continue to tell the public that are not happening,” he said. “They are lying. There is no question they are lying.”
“The mantra of ‘safe and effective’ must stop after today’s information,” Renz said.
1. The data was broken out into two categories: those under 81 and those 81 and older. Medicare is generally available to those 65 years old and older. It's also available to younger people with disabilities. Do you consider everyone on Medicare to be "old folks?"
"The article does not even say whether they died from the vaccine or simply with the vaccine. Nor does it say what the death rate is among that same age group among the control group (the unvaccinated)."
2. Of course it doesn't. It states right there in the article, that this is "raw" data.
The point here, is that this "raw" data needs to be further explored.
Do you trust the government to be forthright, honest and transparent regarding this particular set of raw data...or ANYTHING related to Covid?
I am sorry. That is just awful. My mom was a victim of the covid lockdowns - not from covid, but being subject to no visitors - no human interaction. She was healthy prior.
Omigosh, I am so sorry.
I offer my heartfelt condolences and prayers for you and your family.
From the article:
“Further, a recent whistleblower report from Project Veritas reveals medical personnel in federal hospitals confirming the presence of many patients suffering from COVID vaccine injuries, yet “nobody” reports them to VAERS.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS
And now that same population is being given jab #3.
Doubtful those in assisted living and nursing homes are even being given an option.
This is going to be horrible and hard to hide within the next several months.
# We would need autopsies to connect them to the notavax.
You mean like the autopsies they are using to claim deaths were ‘caused by covid’?
Yup. What’s reported in VAERS by healthcare professionals is probably no more than 10% of the incidents, even though they are required by law to do so.
In 2007, the last year for which I can find data, 816,615 Americans between 65-81 died. 938,950 Americans over 81 died in that year as well. In the average 14 day period that works out to 67,337 of which 31,322 were under 82 and 36,015 older. While demographics and mortality have changed since then, 48,465/67,337 = 72%, which probably about the percentage of folks who are both Medicare patients and have received the jab.
All this illustrates is how easily you can incite a bunch of excitable people with silly "statistics". There is absolutely nothing alarming about these numbers.
It’s not just JnJ
It’s all of them
The average COVID Death is 80. The one thing people in their eighties do the most is die.
Even though I can see 80 now having lived 2/3 of the way there it’s still old. Nobody goes to an 80 year old’s funeral & says that they were taken too young.
Knock it off guys — things like common sense, science, and statistical analysis have no place on an anti-vax thread.
Except that Medicare patients is a group that starts at age 65, not 81.
From the VAERS' website:
"VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind."
In other words, anyone can file a report with VAERS -- even radical anti-vaxers with an agenda.
From that site you linked:
later
Here ya go.
Lotsa connections.
Most go back to the Rockefellators & Bill GatesofHell
https://clubderklarenworte.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Netzwerkanalyse-Corona-Komplex.pdf
Weight, diabetes, cancer, sex, smoking, to begin with.
Think about it.
If the body hasn't ramped up its immune system against the spike protein yet, then all the spike proteins running around the body after the clot shot, are free to bind to ACE2 receptors to their heart's content; or induce clumping of platelets; or cross the blood-brain barrier; or bind to the CD147 markers in cardiac tissue.
And there's nothing the body can do about it.
Condolences.
Fortunately, they gave us separate data for “over 81”, giving us a ballpark to work with. Medicare enrollment is 95% in the “elderly”, so it’s pretty safe to say that it’s above that at “over 80”. The over 80 population is about 13.2M, with slightly over half of those over 85. So it’s pretty safe to use actuarial data for 85 to get a ballpark number. We can also assume about 90% vaccination in this group.
According to actuarial tables the probability of an 85 year old dying within 1 year is 9.5% for men and 7.3% for women. I’ll split that and use 8.4%. Divide by 26 to get to 14 days and you get 0.00323, or a 0.323% chance of dying within 2 weeks of any event, like drinking a glass of water.
Now, with a population of 13.2M, and 90% vaccinated and 95% enrolled in Medicare, you get a group of 10.6M. This group includes 80 year olds, and the actuarial table says about 500,000 won’t make it to 81, so lets trim it down to 10M, a nice round number representing vaccinated, Medicare enrolled people 81 or older.
10M X 0.00323 = 32,300. That is thousands more expected deaths within this group than the 28,065 claimed by the “whistle blower”, but pretty close. Obviously, this is a simple ballpark number, but clearly the number of deaths in this group is not higher than expected. Just like the VAERS deaths, the author is just trying to twist numbers for an agenda.
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