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Even House Democrats Think Emperor Biden’s $600 IRS Bank Spying Plan Is Bonkers So They’re Proposing a New Number
NOQ Report ^ | 09/27/2021 | JD Rucker

Posted on 09/27/2021 9:13:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Joe Biden wants to know how much money is coming in and out of your bank accounts. His plan is to require banks report all transactions of more than $600 whether coming in or going out. It was billed as a way to fight tax evasion, which is ironic since Biden himself was accused of evading his own taxes last week. But the truth is the regime wants to keep tabs on everyone’s money to make sure nobody has any the government can’t get their grimy fingers on.

According to Katabella Roberts from our premium news partners at The Epoch Times:

Democrats have said they plan to raise the threshold of President Joe Biden’s radical proposal that all bank transactions of more than $600 be reported to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

The initial proposal (pdf)—which Biden says is aimed at curbing tax evasion—would require banks and other financial institutions to report to the IRS any deposits or withdrawals totaling more than $600 annually to or from all business and personal accounts.

The new reporting requirement would take effect in 2022 and would apply to both private individual and commercial business accounts owned by a taxpayer.

But House Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal said Thursday that he and other Democratic leaders are planning to scrap the $600 annual figure and set a higher threshold, of which the details are still being worked through.

“We’ve reached an agreement to not have the $600,” Neal told Bloomberg. A Democratic aide noted that they are focusing on increasing the current threshold to $10,000 but said that this figure could well change.

The huge gap between what the Biden-Harris regime wants and what Democrats in the House will be proposing tells us just how outrageous the original plan is. This is financial spying, nothing more. They want us to believe it’s only about tax evasion, but they will never mention the other risks of having our purchases and receipts monitored by Big Brother.

As government grows to gargantuan levels, it’s clear the nanny state is quickly becoming the police state. Giving such forced visibility to the IRS means the reporting burden on both banks and the agency will expand. The bigger problem isn’t with today’s IRS, though. The real concern is how this data can be weaponized by a near-future IRS that operates within the rapidly forming police state.

To say we’re seeing the formation of Big Brother would be an understatement. Even George Orwell couldn’t imagine the draconian future that is being built right before our eyes.




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; bank; california; democrats; infrastructure; irs; nancypelosi; policestate; privacy; spying; surveillance; taxhike
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To: Red Badger

good point. its not the amount, its the constitutionality


41 posted on 09/27/2021 10:08:26 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: DesertRhino
Setting it to 10,000 sounds less intrusive.... until you realize that in the soon to hit hyperinflation lunch at McDonalds will probably cost 8,000.

They already report transactions of more than $10k to the IRS. That should have never happened.

42 posted on 09/27/2021 10:09:39 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s deposits or withdrawals TOTALING more than $10,000 ANNUALY. It’s not individual transactions over $10,000 each (which is already done). If you have more than $10,000 going into and out of your bank accounts, you get monitored by the Federal Gov’t.


43 posted on 09/27/2021 10:09:40 AM PDT by Roadrunner383
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To: SeekAndFind

the correct response is repeal the 16th


44 posted on 09/27/2021 10:10:05 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: SeekAndFind

aren’t all transactions over $5000 already reported?


45 posted on 09/27/2021 10:11:46 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: JoSixChip

Hate to say it, but Joe would say to your face that you never paid your ‘fair share’.

The problem here is that this ‘fair share’ dimwit comment keeps coming up (almost hourly). No one can define the phrase.


46 posted on 09/27/2021 10:14:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: JoSixChip
"We bought and sold our house this year with bank wires, so I'm sure we are on their radar. We pay no federal or state income tax, we have no taxable income. We are retired and I planned our retirement so that we would have no taxable income, zero. No state, no federal income tax at all, period. Eat that biden."

They are toying around with a wealth tax. I would watch them closely to see how intrusive it becomes. At the bottom of everything in our emerging police state is the view that they own everything, they own you, and anything you are allowed to do is at their sufferance.

47 posted on 09/27/2021 10:14:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: SeekAndFind

They need this information as one of the factors in establishing your social credit score.

Then they have the mileage tracker on your car, whether you own or rent your home, who your mail comes from, how often do you access certain websites and on and on and on.


48 posted on 09/27/2021 10:16:13 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: SeekAndFind

Banks already note transactions of $10K+, and if you’re suspected of breaking up transactions into smaller amounts to evade the reporting requirements, you can go to jail.


49 posted on 09/27/2021 10:17:49 AM PDT by sitetest (Professional patient. No longer mostly dead. Again. It's getting to be a habit.)
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To: granite

Good thing he’s going after those who make trillions.
The new spending won’t cost a thing.


50 posted on 09/27/2021 10:19:51 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: TexasGator

And the rear end is already causing a stink!


51 posted on 09/27/2021 10:32:22 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement! )
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To: Psalm 73

you can always burn them for heat.


52 posted on 09/27/2021 10:32:59 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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To: Red Badger

So how many new IRS agents will this require, to go through all of the records in order to determine what they need to investigate?

What will it cost the banks (to be passed along to the consumers, no doubt) to do the extra record-keeping and reporting?

Besides the basic issue of our privacy, this would seem to be one more control issue for the Dems to use against us.


53 posted on 09/27/2021 10:36:12 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Red Badger

It shouldn’t be allowed at all. They’re giving republicans lots of ammo, if they’re smart enough to use it.


54 posted on 09/27/2021 10:38:07 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: SeekAndFind

So, already 50 some odd replies and NOT ONE OF YOU concede the fact that literally NO-ONE gave a damn back in 2009/2010 when FATCA was passed. After all, it only applied to Foreign Bank accounts, and we know that only bad people have such things.

Oh, that expat lost his account because the bank he did business with for years said they won’t comply so the closed all accounts with Americans? So sorry.

That the Treasury can now see every single movement on my account? I have nothing to hide, so why object?

That my non-citizen wife (no green card) would also have to report HER transactions (i.e. the IRS knows what SHE earns, even if it is not taxable income in the US)? She was thrilled to learn this!

That any organization I may be a part of (such as the local Beer Drinkers Club) and occupy a position where I have financial signature authority has to report (includes businesses)? Gee, that sure makes it easy to move up the corporate ladder, be involved in the community.

All of that was okay with you. Now they are coming for YOU and suddenly the Constitution matters again.


55 posted on 09/27/2021 10:40:11 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
There is no safe number.

Bears repeating. That data is for monitoring much more than taxes, and they intend to control much more than that. Oh, did you want to have a cheeseburger for supper? Sorry, we can't let you buy one - it's outside your allowable carbon footprint. If this sounds ridiculous, it isn't, and it isn't the future, it's the present. Check out the Doconomy credit card and consider that the CEO of the Swiss company inventing the software has announced she intends it to be mandatory for everyone.

Yes, this would be a planned economy such as the ones that turn first-world countries into third-world ones. It's all in the name of equity. You will own nothing and be happy.

56 posted on 09/27/2021 10:41:46 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: virgil
They’re giving republicans lots of ammo, if they’re smart enough to use it.

The GOP could care less. 70 Senators allowed FATCA to become law in 2010. The RNC "called" for a repeal in 2014. Of course that was "safe" to do as it had zero chance in the Senate. After that, crickets.

All Biden and Co want, is for FATCA to apply to everyone, not just the ex-pats.

57 posted on 09/27/2021 10:44:31 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Lib politician - Whoa! Do you know how hard it would be to laundry 30,000 $599 "donations" from major donors?

I fact that's exactly what Americians should do, break each and every payment into a $600 amount. Pay the credit card, ok that's four $600 transactions, pay the mortgage another three $600 payments. Bury the IRS in $600 transactions, trillions of them! We could have trillions of transactions for the IRS to review!

Image each time you go to the bank, remove $600 and then deposit the $600 back. Once a week would be 100 transactions.....

58 posted on 09/27/2021 10:51:52 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: SeekAndFind

They have this information NOW.

Just like facebook and google do.

But the .gov has to pay for it. This bill just makes it free to them.

Every non physical cash transaction is traced and traceable. For that matter, many cash transactions are


59 posted on 09/27/2021 11:54:00 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: AndyJackson

Exactly.


60 posted on 09/27/2021 11:56:33 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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