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Hospitals Dispute Firefighters' Claims That EMTs See More With Vaccine Reactions Than COVID-19
WESH ^ | Sep 16, 2021 | Bob Hazen

Posted on 09/19/2021 9:29:03 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Some Orange County firefighters who are protesting the county’s requirement that all employees get the COVID-19 vaccine are sounding alarms about the shot, but hospital officials say they are not seeing problems with the vaccines.

This week, some firefighters told county commissioners they are responding to large numbers of people suffering medical complications from the vaccine.

Advertisement “I transport more people, more Central Florida brothers and sisters, that are vaccinated with issues, adverse reactions, or with COVID than I do unvaccinated,” Wendy Williams said.

“On a daily basis, dispatch receives an excessive amount of 911 calls regarding vaccine reactions,” firefighter Jason Wheat said.

WESH 2 looked into those claims, reaching out to Central Florida’s biggest hospital systems.

“The answer is no, we’re not seeing a lot of reactions,” Dr. Tim Hendrix with AdventHealth Centra Care said. “This is a very safe vaccine.”

“We have not seen increased complications or visits to the emergency room post vaccines,” said Dr. Neil Finkler, AdventHealth’s chief clinical officer.

Orlando Health would not directly answer the question of whether it has seen a large number of adverse reactions to the vaccine, but issued the following statement:

“It has been our experience that failing to get vaccinated is the biggest predictor of serious illness and deaths from COVID-19. Orlando Health continues to strongly encourage the community to obtain a COVID vaccine, which can also assist with preventing the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.”

WESH 2 also asked Orange County for 911 call records related to any vaccine reactions, but a spokeswoman said the agency does not have any special classifications for COVID-19-related calls, so there are no records available.

There is one place to find reports of possible problems: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The database has several limitations, including that anyone can submit a report, which can be unverified and incomplete. There is also rarely confirmation that the reaction being reported is directly caused by the vaccine, instead of coincidental.

Health care providers are required to report deaths and life-threatening reactions to VAERS.

WESH 2 searched the database for reactions to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines reported in Florida, specifically those that resulted in deaths, hospitalizations, emergency room visits, or were life-threatening.

VAERS returned more than 4,000 results; some were very serious illnesses, others were very minor and the patients were discharged quickly.

The Florida Department of Health says more than 13,000,000 people in the state have been vaccinated.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: covid; covidvaccines; vaccine; vaers; vers; washington
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1 posted on 09/19/2021 9:29:03 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Many, and maybe most, hospitals have been exposed as incompetent in their response to the China Virus. Hard to take what this person says seriously.


2 posted on 09/19/2021 9:32:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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The fact that you are not allowed to discuss adverse reactions tells you everything you need to know.


3 posted on 09/19/2021 9:34:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: nickcarraway

Run , its
Advent Health .


4 posted on 09/19/2021 9:36:09 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists are the evil)
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To: nickcarraway; All

Since firefighters and EMT’s are first responders, I’m inclined to believe them over air-conditioned hospital personnel that are possibly following the money with CV19.

Insights welcome.


5 posted on 09/19/2021 9:38:45 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: nickcarraway

Hospitals of course lie if they want their Federal Cash. They will say and do precisely what the gov says to do.


6 posted on 09/19/2021 9:39:15 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ditto


7 posted on 09/19/2021 9:39:17 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: nickcarraway
EMTs vs Hospitals

Who gets $35K per "COVID" patient?

Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$

8 posted on 09/19/2021 9:40:14 AM PDT by ASOC (This space for rent)
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Orlando Health would not directly answer the question of whether it has seen a large number of adverse reactions to the vaccine, but issued the following statement: “It has been our experience that failing to get vaccinated is the biggest predictor of serious illness and deaths from COVID-19. Orlando Health continues to strongly encourage the community to obtain a COVID vaccine, which can also assist with preventing the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.”

They effectively answered the question by not answering it. I'll bet dollars to donuts that statement was heavily edited by the hospital legal team before it was released.
9 posted on 09/19/2021 9:41:43 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: BenLurkin

The suppression of the antibody treatment is the for sure signal to me this is a plan. Guy I know got a bad case of Covid, doctor told him to drink water and get rest, there is nothing else that can be done. This was just this past July, I’m no doctor, yet I know that’s bullcrap.

P.S. I like to call it Fauci Flu instead of China Virus, figure we can get to Fauci first.


10 posted on 09/19/2021 9:42:03 AM PDT by teevolt
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You’re NOT considered vaccinated until the 15th day after being vaccinated, after the single or second shot as applicable depending on the vaccine taken.

If you have a serious reaction within 14 days you are considered unvaccinated.


11 posted on 09/19/2021 9:44:15 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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"Dr. Tim Hendrix with AdventHealth Centra Care said. “This is a very safe vaccine.”

So the thousands of other doctors, nurses, assistants, world-wide reports are all lying. This coverup and control is becoming a true nightmare.

12 posted on 09/19/2021 9:48:50 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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Advent has completely lost their way. Used to be a Christian org, not any more. Bunch of liars


13 posted on 09/19/2021 9:54:55 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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Wondering..... If the injection is now “fda approved” do adverts contain the usual warnings? Or instead of adverts that contain warnings they’re just using paid-for shills that don’t need to make warnings?


14 posted on 09/19/2021 9:55:33 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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“The answer is no, we’re not seeing a lot of reactions,” Dr. Tim Hendrix with Advent Health Centra Care said. “This is a very safe vaccine.”

Hmmm. Is he is just another hospital flak, deflecting questions with another "vaccine" infomercial?

“THESE PATIENTS DESERVE TO BE HEARD” -VAERS WHISTLEBLOWER

15 posted on 09/19/2021 10:07:42 AM PDT by Gritty (All those who’ve lied about everything for 5 years are the ones demanding I take the vaccine-JKelly)
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To: nickcarraway

Hospitals are raking it in with COVID. It’s a money maker.


16 posted on 09/19/2021 10:09:56 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Amendment10

First responders have exposed a whole bunch of “official” lies over the years, including many official lies still believed around here.

I would believe them over any “expert” or “spokesman” any day.


17 posted on 09/19/2021 10:10:00 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Most of us are not sure who or what to believe any more because the nation is so polarized that everything we see or hear seems to support or harm a political agenda.

It is a real sad state of affairs isn’t it?


18 posted on 09/19/2021 10:32:51 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

It has been this way for a long time—but many Freepers just didn’t pay close enough attention.

The Vince Foster fake suicide in the 1990s is where I learned my lesson.

_Everybody_ was lying and lying and lying...easily provable lies for those who had done their homework.


19 posted on 09/19/2021 10:48:58 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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I forgot to mention—in the Vince Foster case it was the EMTs that blew the whistle on the lies—and the EMTs were hushed up in a hurry...


20 posted on 09/19/2021 10:50:41 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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