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To: dfwgator

Before black slavery most slave cultures once subsequent generations were freed they either migrated back home if they had been seized in conquest or they assimilated

That’s the rub.

I’m not sure slavery was thriving ...it seems it was on the wane in the north where it was being supplanted by poor whites and the parts of the south where it was most obviously successful for the owners were going to run out of land to cultivate and too many heirs to split holdings between

Hence like second sons before them who migrated from Europe for wealth these folks wanted the eastern plains pretty much the same

To extend their way of life

That’s just the slavery expansion economics ....

The civil war was about much more than that.

You do bring up a salient point...one always ignored here.

What to do about these blacks if freed.

In parts of the south if you did what the radical GOPe wanted under the guise of altruism then you handed all political power to blacks to lord over what in any places is a white minority...then...and now in places like the delta or Jackson Miss

They didn’t get their way obviously.

I don’t think repatriating slaves to Africa was possible but the north could have offered that as an option...and encouraged it

But even though they sure didn’t ever....note I said ever....want them en masse.....nor did any to the left of Lincoln wish them to leave given the power these newly freed folks gave the GOPe at that time

It was a mess.

And yes like you said....the fallout from brining them here continues to this day and despite some blacks achieving power and status I think it’s declined since my youth for blacks as a group.

Stuff like this is just political grandstanding by hucksters.

Go to Richmond and look around.....statues are not the problem


82 posted on 09/08/2021 7:51:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: wardaddy
I don’t think repatriating slaves to Africa was possible but the north could have offered that as an option...and encouraged it

Uh, Liberia.

Liberia,... officially the Republic of Liberia, is a country on the West African coast...[that] began in the early 19th century as a settlement of the American Colonization Society (ACS), which believed black people would face better chances for freedom and prosperity in Africa than in the United States.

Between 1822 and the outbreak of the American Civil War in 1861, more than 15,000 freed and free-born people of color who faced social and legal oppression in the U.S., along with 3,198 Afro-Caribbeans, relocated to Liberia. Gradually developing an "Americo-Liberian" identity, the settlers carried their culture and tradition with them; the Liberian constitution and flag were modeled after those of the U.S., while its capital was named after ACS supporter and U.S. President James Monroe.

Liberia declared independence on July 26, 1847, which the U.S. did not recognize until February 5, 1862. On January 3, 1848, Joseph Jenkins Roberts, a wealthy, free-born African American from the U.S. state of Virginia who settled in Liberia, was elected Liberia's first president after the people proclaimed independence.

Liberia was the first African republic to proclaim its independence, and is Africa's first and oldest modern republic...


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151 posted on 09/08/2021 1:09:07 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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