Posted on 09/03/2021 6:33:52 AM PDT by SJackson
There are few periods in history where Muslims are not attacking or planning to attack the West since the birth of Islam. True.
We should have at least kept Bagram. Just like we should have kept Cam ran bay.
It’s possible we should have adjusted our operations there rather than just pulling out.
Seems like we should have at least kept the Baghram air base and then made step by step adjustments along with tough negotiations, probably what Trump planned to do.
What did it for me is listening to the commanders trying to teach these knuckleheads anything after 20 years aside form the video of these Cretans trying to do jumping jacks. We tax payers have been had.
Like Gitmo
I’d preferred to keep them 3rd world. If not for oil, they would have nothing. Biden restricts our energy production here and encourages them to produce more. It is just a transfer of wealth from us to muslims. They will have more resources to expand their terror.
I’d prefer to cut them off. Let them kill each other.
“We should have at least kept Bagram.”
How many billions per year would it cost to defend, maintain, and supply Bagram each each?
What would the benefits be for that expense?
But we all know that already.
The U.S. has troops all over the world, yet we withdrew our troops from the country where Islamic terrorists continue to proliferate.
I do not give two flying fs at a donut rolling downhill about what happens to the population of Afghanistan.
USA has oil and gas to be independent from Middle East it is NOT MY PROBLEM. Stop killing Americans for no good reason.
We live in a country today where you will lose your job if you don't believe that a bearded crossdresser exposing his penis to children is actually a "real" women.
We live in a country today where you can lose your job if it is discovered that you voted for Donald Trump, because your coworkers now "feel unsafe working with a white supremacist."
Wokeism has taken over every institution in America and it is punishing conservatives. I'm not convinced that Sharia Law would be any worse.
I understand those saying “twenty years is enough” and “spend no more blood and treasure.” I also acknowledge that huge mistakes were made in Afghanistan, including wasting money on trying to build an Afghan army with technology the soldiers there couldn’t understand.
But I fear that the West is simply not up to the task of winning the long war against Islam. War is the imposition of will by one side upon another. The retreat from Afghanistan shows the world that the will of the jihadis is stronger than ours. Until such a time comes that Islamic people no longer try to forcibly convert the world, the war is not over no matter where the forces of the West retreat to.
We should have never gone there, except to Hunt Bin Laden, and then realizing the evil of the Saudis and our own CIA in manufacturing our own enemies - simply had a total travel ban with Most Muslim nations.
We instead chose endless war, massive debt, mass surveillence and open borders.
HighSierra5 :” We should have at least kept Bagram. ..”
I totally agree about keeping Bagram, from a strategic perspective, it is an advanced scouting post.
It was a forward position which allowed visual and tactical observation to the north into Russia, eastward into China, and southeast into Pakistan.
The reason why there is no war during winter is not because of the harshness of climate, but rather it is because the Taliban return home to Pakistan.
Bagram was a forward observation post.
Thanks to Biden, it’s almost a dead certainty we’ll go back.
It’s really laughable that President Sock Puppet declares the war is over.
Just because you cut and run doesn’t mean the other guy is going to stop coming after you.
I have no doubt that as emboldened as they are and as weak as we seem, they can’t wait for their next attack.
At some point in time, hopefully Real Soon Now, the “leaders” of Western Civilized countries (aka “Western Civilization”) will come to understand that Islam has been at war with ALL non-Islamic societies since 622 AD!
(Patenthetically, they wage war on each other, too. That is the World’s longest running Hatfield and McCoy feud!)
That means, my fellow FReepers, that Islam has been “practicing” Jihad for 1399 years!
We ARE at war with Islam, and have been since before our Founding Fathers wrote the most consequential documents in human history!
The war will end when the last Moslem dies!
Well, Cretans are always liars, according to St. Paul (Titus 1.12).
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