Posted on 09/03/2021 6:33:52 AM PDT by SJackson
Imagine after Pearl Harbor, FDR announcing, “We’re getting into this to bring human rights to Japanese women” or “Our goal in this war is give Germany a democracy.” He would have been laughed out of office.
There was only one legitimate reason to go into Afghanistan after 9/11 and it’s the same reason that should have impelled us to stay – not human rights, democracy or nation-building – but saving our nation.
We went to Afghanistan to root out terrorism, to destroy Al Qaeda’s infrastructure, to disrupt its network – and, quite frankly, to kill as many terrorists as possible.
The goal was to kill them there so they wouldn’t kill us here, as they did on 9/11. Everything else was extraneous. That the mission failed may be seen in just how quickly the Taliban made a comeback, except now, with the most modern weapons in the region – thanks to Quartermaster Joe.
The cut-and-run crowd called it “the forever war.” Rubbish.
You want to hear about a forever war? Afghanistan was the latest chapter in a conflict that’s been going on since the 7th century.
At one time, Islam engulfed much of the known world – from the Arabian Peninsula west to the Pyrenees and east to the Indian subcontinent and beyond.
In his book “The Clash of Civilizations and Remaking of World Order” (1996), Harvard Professor Samuel P. Huntington spoke of “Islam’s bloody borders,” alluding to the fact that almost all of the religion-based conflicts in the world involve Islam versus someone else.
America’s longest war, they call it. Really? Through April, 2,448 Americans died in the 20 years we’ve been in Afghanistan – fewer than the number of Americans who died in one day in the attack on the World Trade Center (2,996).
The Vietnam War, which started under the French, went on for 21 years (1954-1975). Over 58,000 Americans died when we fought there. Was it worth it? I believe it was. South Vietnam fell. But due to our involvement (and the price we paid in blood), communism is no longer a potent force in Southeast Asia.
During the Korean War (1950-53), close to 40,000 Americans died in combat. Almost 70 years after the end of active fighting (there’s never been a peace treaty), we still have 28,000 troops stationed south of the 38th parallel. Without their presence, Little Rocket Man would resume a war his grandfather started. Doesn’t that make North Korea our longest war?
Our ignominious withdrawal from Afghanistan marks end of one stage of Islamic extremism’s war on the West. Thanks to the blundering of the empty suit in the Oval Office, the Taliban is not only resurgent, but in possession of tons of sophisticated hardware, including Black Hawk helicopters.
Once again, ISIS has a home address. All of the other terrorist groups will flock there. They can celebrate the 20th anniversary of 9/11 in what used to be the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, with American weapons.
China, Russia and Iran are also beneficiaries of the Geezer’s abject surrender. They’ve spent decades telling the world that America is a paper tiger and an unreliable ally. Biden just proved them right.
Besides providing a command post for international terrorism, Biden’s open-borders policy will allow more terrorists to come here. The refugee flood which will come out of Afghanistan will be seeded with Islamist operatives. How can they pass up an opportunity like this?
Our return to Afghanistan is inevitable. We will have no choice. When bombs start exploding and bullets start flying from New York to LA – perhaps after the next 9/11 -- we’ll have to go back in.
Except this stage of the conflict reinforced the lesson learned by our enemies in Vietnam – Americans don’t have staying power. All they have to do is wait us out. Given enough time, the domestic surrender lobby will carry the day. As a young Senator in 1973, Biden was part of that lobby. Now, he’s its doddering leader.
When we’re forced back in, all of our Afghan allies will be dead (a process we will have facilitated by providing the Taliban with kill lists) and the jihadists will be waiting for us with 75,000 military vehicles we bequeathed them.
On August 15, the day Kabul fell, Taliban commander Muhammed Arif Mustafa told a journalist: “One day mujahedeen will have victory and Islamic law will come not just to Afghanistan, but all over the world. We are not in a hurry. We believe it will come one day. Jihad will not end until the last day.”
Unless you want your children or grandchildren to live under Sharia, you’d better take this seriously and think about how Biden’s Afghan debacle brings that day much closer.
The next time, and there will be a next time, we should take as our motto a line from “The Untouchables,” where Eliot Ness tells Al Capone in the climatic courtroom scene: “Never stop fighting till the fight is done.”
Here endeth the lesson.
There are few periods in history where Muslims are not attacking or planning to attack the West since the birth of Islam. True.
We should have at least kept Bagram. Just like we should have kept Cam ran bay.
It’s possible we should have adjusted our operations there rather than just pulling out.
Seems like we should have at least kept the Baghram air base and then made step by step adjustments along with tough negotiations, probably what Trump planned to do.
What did it for me is listening to the commanders trying to teach these knuckleheads anything after 20 years aside form the video of these Cretans trying to do jumping jacks. We tax payers have been had.
Like Gitmo
I’d preferred to keep them 3rd world. If not for oil, they would have nothing. Biden restricts our energy production here and encourages them to produce more. It is just a transfer of wealth from us to muslims. They will have more resources to expand their terror.
I’d prefer to cut them off. Let them kill each other.
“We should have at least kept Bagram.”
How many billions per year would it cost to defend, maintain, and supply Bagram each each?
What would the benefits be for that expense?
But we all know that already.
The U.S. has troops all over the world, yet we withdrew our troops from the country where Islamic terrorists continue to proliferate.
I do not give two flying fs at a donut rolling downhill about what happens to the population of Afghanistan.
USA has oil and gas to be independent from Middle East it is NOT MY PROBLEM. Stop killing Americans for no good reason.
We live in a country today where you will lose your job if you don't believe that a bearded crossdresser exposing his penis to children is actually a "real" women.
We live in a country today where you can lose your job if it is discovered that you voted for Donald Trump, because your coworkers now "feel unsafe working with a white supremacist."
Wokeism has taken over every institution in America and it is punishing conservatives. I'm not convinced that Sharia Law would be any worse.
I understand those saying “twenty years is enough” and “spend no more blood and treasure.” I also acknowledge that huge mistakes were made in Afghanistan, including wasting money on trying to build an Afghan army with technology the soldiers there couldn’t understand.
But I fear that the West is simply not up to the task of winning the long war against Islam. War is the imposition of will by one side upon another. The retreat from Afghanistan shows the world that the will of the jihadis is stronger than ours. Until such a time comes that Islamic people no longer try to forcibly convert the world, the war is not over no matter where the forces of the West retreat to.
We should have never gone there, except to Hunt Bin Laden, and then realizing the evil of the Saudis and our own CIA in manufacturing our own enemies - simply had a total travel ban with Most Muslim nations.
We instead chose endless war, massive debt, mass surveillence and open borders.
HighSierra5 :” We should have at least kept Bagram. ..”
I totally agree about keeping Bagram, from a strategic perspective, it is an advanced scouting post.
It was a forward position which allowed visual and tactical observation to the north into Russia, eastward into China, and southeast into Pakistan.
The reason why there is no war during winter is not because of the harshness of climate, but rather it is because the Taliban return home to Pakistan.
Bagram was a forward observation post.
Thanks to Biden, it’s almost a dead certainty we’ll go back.
It’s really laughable that President Sock Puppet declares the war is over.
Just because you cut and run doesn’t mean the other guy is going to stop coming after you.
I have no doubt that as emboldened as they are and as weak as we seem, they can’t wait for their next attack.
At some point in time, hopefully Real Soon Now, the “leaders” of Western Civilized countries (aka “Western Civilization”) will come to understand that Islam has been at war with ALL non-Islamic societies since 622 AD!
(Patenthetically, they wage war on each other, too. That is the World’s longest running Hatfield and McCoy feud!)
That means, my fellow FReepers, that Islam has been “practicing” Jihad for 1399 years!
We ARE at war with Islam, and have been since before our Founding Fathers wrote the most consequential documents in human history!
The war will end when the last Moslem dies!
Well, Cretans are always liars, according to St. Paul (Titus 1.12).
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