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In Afghanistan, the Worst Is Yet to Come
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2021 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/27/2021 5:26:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: SoCal Pubbie
I’d start with these two:

1. Hunt down the Islamic elements in Afghanistan that were involved in the 9/11 attacks and destroy them.

2. Impose an immediate trade embargo on that country — and then extend it to any other country that conducted business with them.

3. Withdraw U.S. recognition of Afghanistan as a nation — permanently. Establish a protocol where individual parts of the country could apply for recognition independently — under very specific conditions we establish. Each “nation” we recognize could be as large as a former Afghan province or as small as a village.

Item #3 is important because it has to include a harsh set of blunt expectations on our part. The goal would be to divide Afghanistan into a large number of independent, but highly dysfunctional, states. And our expectations have to be made clear up front: Each state has to be small enough that it can be destroyed beyond repair in a 48-hour military strike, if necessary.

81 posted on 08/27/2021 9:25:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
I wish people would stop with those silly statements about Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. It’s nothing more than an exercise in semantics and putting lipstick on a pig.

If your military personnel are getting blown up at the gate of the airport while your last military aircraft are taking off with pajama-clad refugees hanging off the landing gear, you’ve lost the war — no matter how much you don’t want to admit it.

82 posted on 08/27/2021 9:33:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry — that’s THREE, not two!


83 posted on 08/27/2021 9:37:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Travis McGee

Sounds more like your describing Dien Bien Phu to me, there wasn’t any high ground around the Alamo.

Here in Kabul we have an airport surrounded by ridges and hills at least 1800 t0 2000 meters, mortars, artillery, snipers etcetera can look right down their throats.

Now our soldiers and Marines have a feel for how the French felt on May 7th 1954!


84 posted on 08/27/2021 9:46:16 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: The Great RJ

Noem;, SERIOUSLY?

The Governor who basically said “I only lied to my constituents to please my CORPORATE MASTERS”!


85 posted on 08/27/2021 10:19:43 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

At least you have an alternative in mind. On the other hand, assuming the US could have overcome huge international pushback, there’d be no guarantee that we wouldn’t have been involved for twenty years under your scenario.

The smaller states you describe would have been easy for the Taliban to grab one by one. And the only way to have prevented it would’ve been through continued American military intervention.

It’s easy to criticize, and there’s a lot that deserves critique, but I’m afraid that once 9/11 happened you were either going to sit back and do nothing or get involved in some sort of invasion that might have long-term negative consequences.


86 posted on 08/27/2021 12:08:42 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The smaller states you describe would have been easy for the Taliban to grab one by one. And the only way to have prevented it would’ve been through continued American military intervention.

Not really. One of the preconditions for recognition would be that the “state” would have to demonstrate that it had a military force capable of protecting itself with nothing more than U.S. equipment.

87 posted on 08/27/2021 12:25:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Alberta's Child

And that would magically be achieved how?


88 posted on 08/27/2021 1:11:30 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
It wouldn’t be “magically” achieved at all. It would take a lot of work and effort on the part of those Afghans who wanted their quasi-state to be recognized by the U.S.

If none of them achieved it, then who cares?

89 posted on 08/27/2021 1:24:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Mariner

3 small simple questions I have been asking for some time now
1. What Do You Want?
2. How Do You Get It?
(most importantly)
3. Then What Happens?

What happens when Afghanistan becomes Disneyland for Islamic Terror groups? Because as we speak 2 things are happening. 1. Sites are being scouted for training camps, using lessons learned from the last time. 2. Islamic Terror groups world wide are sending or getting ready to send people there for training.

I keep pointing this out because apparently some people think, since we’ve left the war is over.


90 posted on 08/27/2021 2:13:36 PM PDT by Valin
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To: cgbg

“Our military priority needs to be to defend the US border from foreign invaders.

As long as we fail to do that, all foreign policy is a sick joke.”

Yes?


91 posted on 08/27/2021 2:17:22 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

Islamic terrorism is the least of our worries.

We’re about to lose our republic.

If they want to come here and go all jihadi, I encourage them.

We’ll just shoot the few that make it.


92 posted on 08/27/2021 3:21:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: montag813

ISIS-K is just a splinter faction of the Taliban.


93 posted on 08/27/2021 5:25:27 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: frogjerk

Has Pat Buchanan gone over to the dark side or has he always been there?


94 posted on 08/27/2021 5:58:42 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Mariner

“We’re about to lose our republic.”

We Are? Yes we are going through a (really) rough patch, one of the roughest in our history. Thing is our form of government is self-correcting. You can see it starting to happen now.


95 posted on 09/02/2021 6:22:36 AM PDT by Valin
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