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Is desalination the answer to California's drought? Here's what experts say
ABC 7 News ^ | July 28, 2021 | Juan Carlos Guerrero

Posted on 08/18/2021 1:20:08 PM PDT by grundle

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To: Kevmo
Rossi didn't already build one?
41 posted on 08/18/2021 3:15:14 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I've never accused California libs of being intelligent.
42 posted on 08/18/2021 3:16:29 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I posted stuff from Rossi’s blog for 2&half MONTHS. I still get hounded about it after 10 YEARs. It’s entriguing to see how far this kind of bullshiite goes on from the ignorant Luddite anti-science crowd.


43 posted on 08/18/2021 3:37:06 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: grundle

The last thing government wants is real solutions.


44 posted on 08/18/2021 4:24:53 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: Kevmo
Yeah, I'm anti-science, because I saw thru Rossi’s BS.
45 posted on 08/18/2021 6:14:50 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You are anti-science because you harass legit scientific discussion 9&half years after that bullshiite was aired. After excerpts from Rossi’s blog stopped. After it was posted “let him follow his own rule of ‘in mercato veritas’”.

2&half months posted
2&half months afterward harassment — standard harassment
5 months harassment — probably standard harassment
10 months harassment — RICO level triple standard harassment
15 months harassment — crossing the line into jerkhood
20 months harassment — Trolling
25 months harassment — Anti-science trolling
30 months harassment — Anti science Luddite Trolling
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40 months harassment — Anti science Luddite Trolling, just doing it because you’re an @$$#0/e and know you can get away with it.
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100 months harassment — Worse than Anti-science. Stupid anti-science. Dumb.
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However many months it’s been to today — You deserve an anti-science Troll’s timeout for several days, multiplied all the way back by how many months you’ve been a jerk.


46 posted on 08/18/2021 6:48:43 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There are no piles of salt with reverse osmosis desal. The typical recovery rate is 1:1 fresh water to brine. That brine has all the original salt of the seawater since it’s half the volume it’s twice as salty which for normal seawater at 35,000 ppm yields a 70,000 ppm brine sounds like a lot change the units to per cent and it’s 7% brine. This brine when elected under pressure into the seawater it came from rapidly mixed with more seawater to go back to nearly it’s original ppm value a few dozen meters from the outfall ejectors. One gallon ejected mixes with one gallon now it’s only 50% another gallon of mixing and half again you get the idea in very short distances it falls off to undetectable levels. It’s fear mongering by people with political agendas who harp about “toxic brine” the Israelis have the second largest RO plant in the world on the high salinity Mediterranean coastline even they have zero issue a with “toxic bribes”


47 posted on 08/18/2021 7:05:02 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: grundle

If little Israel can afford it, so can California.

As for environmentalists, has the Legislature approved pelt
prices yet?


48 posted on 08/18/2021 7:07:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Thanks!


49 posted on 08/18/2021 7:13:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

MIT has a better idea of what to do with the brine.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41929-018-0218-y

Split the sodium chloride salt into acid and base.

HCl and NaOH both very useful chemicals used in the millions of Kg every year.

NaOH has a added benefit of being able to absorb CO2 directly from the air when in solution. You could use it to form bicarbonate directly from the air then heat the bicarb to release pure CO2 which again has numerous uses. Very cheap bulk NaOH would yield very cheap pure CO2. NaOH is also capable of extracting raw proteins from green leaf plants when ground up and soaked in an basic solution as protein isolate this is high grade protein for animals feed. Cheap NaOH yield large amounts of protein isolate.

HCl is used all over the chemicals industry. It also has a very interesting property when exposed to cellulose and hemicellulose it depolymerizes both to the original sugars that make up a the base units. Glucose and hextrose having a very cheap source of bulk HCl means you can hydrolysis cellulose to sugars on a huge scale. Monogastric animals(pigs,chickens,humans) cannot eat cellulose but our primary carbohydrate energy source in our blood stream or diet is glucose. Hextrose is eaten by yeasts and any animal or insect with an aerobic gut biota. HCl turns wood scraps, straw, hay, corn stalks any plant materials into sugar that can be feed to animals that don’t have the four stomachs of a cow or goat ect. Cheap HCl in bulk makes for a huge new source of sugars , you can also turn those sugats into ethanol for fuels or food. Yes ethanol is food some people in this very board have a quarter or more of their daily caloric intake by the numbers of ethanol consumption ;)

Any source of cheap acid or base will immediately be put to use for humanity.

Or use it to make a cement replacement with zero CO2 emissions it’s actually CO2negative since the carbonate is formed from atmospheric CO2 should make the greens happy. If nothing else it opens up a massive source of new building materials for the single largest human use substance besides water on earth aka concrete no other material is used more.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241240511_Basalt_as_a_solid_source_of_calcium_and_alkalinity_for_the_sequestration_of_carbon_dioxide_in_building_materials


50 posted on 08/18/2021 7:39:50 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I suspect that a significant portion of that greenhouse gas they are referring to there is water vapor, in addition to the power-production based CO2 release.


51 posted on 08/18/2021 10:14:51 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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"While desalination can produce freshwater, it also generates brine, a highly concentrated salt water mixture..."

More environazi fear porn. Reverse osmosis typically produces about 10% of potable water with 90% being rejected with the extra salt and minerals. That means the returned water is only 10% higher in salt concentration than regular seawater, well within the tolerance range of all sea life except the most sensitive of corals. Of course, those corals are thousands of miles from the Kali coastline.

52 posted on 08/18/2021 10:34:52 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: CatOwner; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; Kaslin

Rather, the dams in the Sierra foothills and canyons continue to be destroyed and ripped out by the enviros.

Their “concerns” about the desalination plants are excuses. Delaying tactics, because they are afraid they really will work.


53 posted on 08/19/2021 10:18:18 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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