Posted on 08/05/2021 8:43:50 AM PDT by Red Badger
Somewhere near Cozumel in the Caribbean Sea, there’s a cruise ship that had zero unvaccinated people aboard but that still suffered an outbreak of Covid-19. This goes against the narrative that the reason for “breakthrough cases” is due to too many unvaccinated people mingling with those who have taken the experimental injections.
The Carnival Vista, which departed from Galveston, Texas, on July 31, has issued strict face mask protocols and ordered infected people aboard into isolation. Mainstream media is already busy blowing it off while the cruise company is patting itself on the back for reacting to swiftly.
In a statement to FOX 26, Carnival said, “We have implemented our new fleetwide mask policy early on Carnival Vista, given that we are managing a small number of positive cases on board. Our pre-established protocols of vaccinated guests and crew, testing, enhanced medical capabilities and contact tracing anticipated the potential for positive cases, and they are designed to adapt to various scenarios. We have identified and tested close contacts and anyone who tested positive is in isolation. The decision to implement the mask policy was made in an abundance of caution, given our focus on the health and safety of our guests and crew. The voyage will continue as planned and we are dedicated to continuing to provide our guests with a fun and safe vacation. We appreciate the support of our Carnival Vista guests, who have been extremely supportive as we implemented the policy Wednesday evening.”
Notice how they call it a “small number of positive cases” while giving no indication of what “small” means to them. Is it 2? 10? 50? Considering the massive ship can hold over 4,000 people, “small” could mean anything. Every mainstream story we’ve seen this morning has blindly accepted and even highlighted the phrase “small number” without inquiry into exact numbers. This is not journalism. It’s narrative-building.
Ever since it became clear the “vaccines” seem to have little to no stopping power when it comes to Delta Variant infections, the White House, CDC, and mainstream media have attempted to paint the spike in “breakthrough cases” as a result of those dastardly unvaccinated. But nobody aboard the Carnival Delta is unvaccinated, a fact that everybody at Carnival and the media is conspicuously ignoring.
If unvaccinated people in close quarters had caused an outbreak of Covid-19, media would be screaming about it with exact numbers and obligatory scolding. On a ship with no unvaccinated people, outbreak details are kept intentionally ambiguous.
it’s NOT a vax... it’s an attenuator.
The cruise lines are infamous for being very vague about the number of people who get sick any time there is any kind of outbreak onboard their ships. (And they are NOT required to report if anyone dies onboard their ships, in most circumstances) Because they are flagged in foreign countries, there are actually no legal requirements as to what they do or do not have to report, even though most passengers assume, incorrectly, that they are strictly regulated.
The CDC plays along with this game by “inspecting” the ships twice a year through their “Vessel Sanitation Program” which is funded by the cruise industry and has ZERO real legal authority. Most of the ships end up getting ratings of 95 or above (on a scale of 0-100), even when there are gross health and safety violations, including sick crew members continuing to work, unsafe food prep and storage, cabins not being properly cleaned after sick passengers depart them, and MANY more such violations. People planning trips only see the scores and do not actually read the reports themselves so they figure that the ships are safe.
Congress is aware of these issues but will not take action against the industry because they have a powerful lobbying presence and the MSM won’t report on it because the cruise lines spend millions in advertising every year.
I would be willing to be the ‘tests’ (swabs) are just thrown in the garbage, and the results made up ........................
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/yellow-fever
The yellow fever vaccine is estimated to be 99% effective...not 100%.
You would lose that bet, as I’ve taken both antibody and PCR tests, and in a number of countries. In the rapid tests, I could watch the sample go into the machine. Nobody discarded the samples.
Apparently they can; natural immunity is like 700% more effective than the Poke. So, it isn't happening at nearly the rate; at least not enough of a rate it would advance the narrative if reported on.
Still not what ADE is. If it were ADE, they’d be experiencing more severe outcomes than people who weren’t vaccinated.
Still no evidence of ADE anywhere.
Aren’t there different levels and severities of Antibody Dependent Enhancement?
A couple of people developed runny noses. Quick stop all cruises! Hunker down! Buy toilet paper before it runs out!
“The sole intent is to mitigate severe illness.”
Well, the vaccines were certainly intended to prevent infection and transmission, but they FAILED to do so. Now all that the talking heads have left to recommend them is to say they MAY mitigate the symptoms of the illness.
“My guess is that if a person has already had Covid they are not catching it again”
Anecdotally, I know a guy who got it and recovered. He did not get vaccinated, but his whole family did. Now they are all sick with the new variant and he is not.
More like that the vaccination saved all their lives and is working perfectly as intended. That seems the correct news narrative for this scenario.
The “vaccines” are working. They are a cure for Wuhan flu hysteria, not a vaccine for the flu. Hysteria sufferers who get the vaccine overcome their hysteria and drop their precautions thus get the flu and help reach herd immunity. The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.
Sure, but the hallmark of ADE - the foundational concept of it - is that antibodies from previous infection or vaccination assist the new infection and present as worsened outcomes. If the outcome is less severe (at a population level - not at an individual level) in those previously infected or vaccinated, it is definitely not ADE.
ADE is most commonly seen in Dengue virus infections. Because there are 5 different types of Dengue virus and the body has difficulty distinguishing between them, someone who was infected by one type of Dengue virus will produce the same antibodies even if infected by another type of Dengue virus. These antibodies are sub-optimal and don’t neutralize the virus. Instead, they actually assist it in infecting cells and doing damage to the immune system. This leads to much more severe outcomes and is why a secondary infection with a different Dengue virus serotype is often so much more dangerous than the original infection.
If you’re doing research on ADE, I would highly recommend looking specifically at Dengue virus. It’s a great example of how ADE works, it’s well studied, and there’s no bias or political agenda attached to it like you might find if you research ADE specific to COVID-19. There’s a lot of fake info floating around about COVID-19, but pretty much anything about Dengue is (probably) going to be reliable background on how this process works.
My, my haven't we been busy making excuses this morning! Every post of yours has been filled with meaningless drivel.
The current batch of Covid “vaccines” have caused more serious injury and death in the last few months than all other vaccines combined in the last 30 years.
The most effective vaccine against the “Delta variant” is currently the Pfizer and it is now less than 40% effective. Some of the rest have become completely useless by any normal measure. People all over the world are being advised to get Pfizer or Moderna “booster” shots if they had one of the more traditional formulations.
Virologists warned in the beginning that vaccines would lose their effectiveness within months against quickly mutating coronvirus and rhinovirus viruses. It was theorized that the mRNA formulations would be effective longer than more traditional vaccines. That is why this massive experiment with mRNA gene therapy was given Emergency Use Authorization. And the mRNA vaccines have held out better, but 40% and dropping protection would be considered an abysmal failure if this were the rate for any other type of vaccine.
Fox 26 News has been a big pimp for the vax and still is
Please provide a citation for your claim of 40% effectiveness.
People are asking that, and it’s been answered. People infected with the original Wuhan virus or the April 2020 variant are infected at a rate of about 1 out of every 10,000. That’s pretty good protection. For the Brazil and South Africa variants, there’s a lot of mixed results, but the Brazil variant has some evidence for significant reinfected based on a study looking at the city of Manaus, Brazil.
The Delta variant has also been studied a lot for this. Because antibodies from previous variants are less effective with Delta due to changes in the M, N, and S proteins. Reinfection rates have been observed in the UK and the US at roughly 1 in 6,000 with Delta. So less protection against that variant than whichever one you were originally infected with, but still pretty good. However, also not perfect.
Important to note that just like people who were vaccinated and got infected anyway (i.e. “breakthrough infections”), those who become reinfected after previously recovering typically have a much milder case the next time around. The immunity enjoyed may not be absolutely perfect, but it limits the damage the virus is able to do.
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