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1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, research shows
Yahoo News ^ | July 28,2021 | Dominick Reuter

Posted on 07/30/2021 6:53:49 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Roughly 20% of electric vehicle owners in California replaced their cars with gas ones, a study shows.

The main reason drivers said they made the switch was the inconvenience of charging.

The findings suggest new challenges facing the growth of the nascent electric vehicle market

can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 300 miles with its V8 engine.

But on a recent 200-mile trip from Boston to New York in the Mustang's electric Mach-E variant, Axios' Dan Primack said he felt "panic" as his battery level dipped below 23% while searching for a compatible charger to complete his trip.

"I was assured that this might be one of the country's easiest EV routes," Primack wrote. "Those assurances were misplaced."

For Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan, an hour plugged into his household outlet gave the Mach-E just three miles of range.

"Overnight, we're looking at 36 miles of range," he told Insider. "Before I gave it back to Ford, because I wanted to give it back full, I drove it to the office and plugged in at the charger we have there."

Standard home outlets generally deliver 120 volts, powering what electric vehicle aficionados call "Level 1" charging, while the higher-powered specialty connections at 240 volts are known as "Level 2." By comparison, Tesla's "Superchargers," which can fully charge its cars in a little over an hour, run on 480 volts.

That difference is night and day, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Energy by University of California Davis researchers Scott Hardman and Gil Tal that surveyed Californians who purchased an electric vehicle between 2012 and 2018.

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To: SaxxonWoods

Getting off topic but those little battery electric chain saws now have a niche with ranchers. Light weight no stale gas etc. Work for many jobs that you don’t really need the power of a gas saw.


41 posted on 07/30/2021 9:22:46 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: Obadiah

and what happens if the Alaska coastline suddenly has to evacuate en mass due to a tsunami warning and ALL the vehicles, including all emergency and roadside assistance vehicles are EVs? OR half of Florida or South Carolina has to mass evacuate because of an unexpected turn of an approaching hurricane? I tell you what happens: the world’s biggest permanent parking lot, with millions of stalled EVs that will take months to get all of them recharged, assuming any are even left after the tsunami or hurricane hits ...


42 posted on 07/30/2021 9:26:00 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Hojczyk

But, but, but, but,

0 - 60 mph times!!!! Once, negates all your laughter.

The electric golf kart fan boyz are not amused with this ridiculing of their love objects.


43 posted on 07/30/2021 9:47:12 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: BobL

“If I had the money, I’d buy (or build) a strategically placed electric car charging station.”

But, the EIS would strangle you before you could break ground.


44 posted on 07/30/2021 9:50:17 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Hojczyk

Awwww. Too soon?


45 posted on 07/30/2021 9:55:54 PM PDT by BRK
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To: Obadiah
"Triple A can’t bring you a tank of battery."

True...but they they CAN bring you a portable "Supercharger" to get you on your way quickly again...

XQ1000 GENERATOR

The XQ1000 provides 1 MW of standby power. The trailer mounted generator comes with a fully weatherproof and sound attenuated enclosure. Other features include automatic voltage regulation, switchable voltage output and automatic start.

46 posted on 07/30/2021 10:55:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?” ~ joma89)
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To: Hojczyk

Well duh


47 posted on 07/31/2021 12:24:50 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Hojczyk

Heck, most folks have a difficult time keeping their phones charged.


48 posted on 07/31/2021 12:31:05 AM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: PA-RIVER

Yes, EV works for short distances, daily commute and shopping trips. One really needs a gas car for other purposes. BTW, the reason gas costs a lot more is, because it pays lot of taxes.


49 posted on 07/31/2021 12:51:55 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: from occupied ga

Yes, The internal combustion is like 30-35%.
The electrical car are no better, if you calculate the efficiency of the power plant, the losses in distribution and the loses in batteries. Say batteries, 80% efficient, electrical motor 90% efficient, losses in grid 20%, Generator 50%. Boils down to about the same. (29% in this case)
What they list is neglecting all “external” losses, which are in EV by far the majority.
EV range is a another racket. Calculated in super ideal condition. People did realistic runs and came with range roughly half of what it is listed. (depends on run and model)


50 posted on 07/31/2021 1:04:58 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: Tell It Right
I can see an EV for certain situations. I might buy an EV a few years from now if they keep improving. And since I don't buy new cars another requirement is that I could get one that's 2 or 3 years used for about 1/4th of the price with the understanding that I'd have to replace the battery soon (which is expensive).

If you buy a used Tesla 2 or 3 years from now, it is unlikely to have lost much range unless it has been operating in extreme conditions such as heat, cold and excessive supercharging. Battery range is something to look into if you plan to keep the car for an extended period. At the end of 10 years the car might only have 80% battery capacity.

51 posted on 07/31/2021 1:33:44 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: catnipman

Tesla really ‘screwed the pooch’ a few years ago during a Florida hurricane.

In a moment of benevolence they gifted their short-range car owners with a temporary software ‘patch’ to extend the range X2 or X3 to help them get out of harm’s way farther. As I remember, the hardware set was identical in the X1 range cars and the X2&X3 range ones, but the sticker price differences were wildly different.

People were REALLY upset when they found that they were paying a lot more for essentially a couple of lines of computer code.

No doubt some code hackers got right to work on that issue


52 posted on 07/31/2021 2:03:51 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: rbg81

Imagine getting low on juice on I-95 in Newark and having to hang around a public charging station for hours. Someday something bad will happen to someone from this.


53 posted on 07/31/2021 2:14:48 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Hojczyk

Surprise! Virtue signaling isn’t all its cracked up to be and has a few downsides.


54 posted on 07/31/2021 2:27:37 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: PA-RIVER

Your range extender will be banned in 2035. I drive 80 miles every day for work. With my family we have five cars in the driveway. EV will be nothing but a pain in the ass.


55 posted on 07/31/2021 2:57:27 AM PDT by outpostinmass2 (Y)
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To: rbg81

“Plus, I’ve even replaced all my electric garden tools with gas ones. I can’t stand how they lose power so quickly.”

I have a Ryobi electric trim mower it is pretty good for what I use it for, trimming. I have a swale along with a frontal ditch, which is difficult to mow, and the incline is such that gas mowers we’ll run out of gas in the carburetor about halfway through the mowing lane at the incline. I have to mow and since the electric is pretty light it makes mowing a couple of those steep embankments a lot less difficult.

I also noted with electric mowers that when the crab grass comes in real heavy, like it is right now, the battery duration is cut in half.


56 posted on 07/31/2021 3:07:31 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Correct, appears that 20% of EV drivers learned that lesson.


57 posted on 07/31/2021 3:19:40 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: from occupied ga
The electric vehicle advocates avoid certain realities.
-You can charge your car at home overnight, but you have to own the home since the landlord may not want to install the higher voltage connections.
-It's harder to move to a new house unless you're willing to pay for a new installation.
-If you live in an apartment and park down the street, you're not charging your car overnight at home.
58 posted on 07/31/2021 6:36:52 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Hojczyk

Electric vehicles like bell bottom pants have a trend time limit.


59 posted on 07/31/2021 8:18:14 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: alrea

Why?


60 posted on 07/31/2021 10:09:58 AM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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