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1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, research shows
Yahoo News ^ | July 28,2021 | Dominick Reuter

Posted on 07/30/2021 6:53:49 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Roughly 20% of electric vehicle owners in California replaced their cars with gas ones, a study shows.

The main reason drivers said they made the switch was the inconvenience of charging.

The findings suggest new challenges facing the growth of the nascent electric vehicle market

can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 300 miles with its V8 engine.

But on a recent 200-mile trip from Boston to New York in the Mustang's electric Mach-E variant, Axios' Dan Primack said he felt "panic" as his battery level dipped below 23% while searching for a compatible charger to complete his trip.

"I was assured that this might be one of the country's easiest EV routes," Primack wrote. "Those assurances were misplaced."

For Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan, an hour plugged into his household outlet gave the Mach-E just three miles of range.

"Overnight, we're looking at 36 miles of range," he told Insider. "Before I gave it back to Ford, because I wanted to give it back full, I drove it to the office and plugged in at the charger we have there."

Standard home outlets generally deliver 120 volts, powering what electric vehicle aficionados call "Level 1" charging, while the higher-powered specialty connections at 240 volts are known as "Level 2." By comparison, Tesla's "Superchargers," which can fully charge its cars in a little over an hour, run on 480 volts.

That difference is night and day, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Energy by University of California Davis researchers Scott Hardman and Gil Tal that surveyed Californians who purchased an electric vehicle between 2012 and 2018.

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1 posted on 07/30/2021 6:53:49 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

the rest of them have a gas car also.................


2 posted on 07/30/2021 6:55:23 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Hojczyk

This is with maybe 2 or 3% of all the cars in Kalifornia being EVs. And they already can’t generate enough power. Now we have so-called “infrastructure” spending which of course will mostly be squandered on Rat Party kleptocrats, cronies and union pension funds. Third World here we come.


3 posted on 07/30/2021 6:56:50 PM PDT by No_Mas_Obama
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To: Hojczyk

In California the public utilities and state officials are warning about using electricity between 4-9pm. They are even running ads on TV suggesting people not turn their air conditioners or run laundry during these hours.

Now imagine all the cars parked in driveways and garages, they can’t start charging their cars until bedtime? In a more ideal world the cars would be smart enough to know when is the most efficient time to charge. And they would also be faster to charge and easy to plug in. That last part may be true but people can get lazy. Like, sometimes I forget to charge my phone at night, wake up with a battery low warning. Annoying because these new phones have battery charging regulators - takes hours to fully charge.


4 posted on 07/30/2021 6:59:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Hojczyk

Electric cars are just another FReaking environmental busy-body/government scam!

And, it is the poor suffering American taxpayer who will suffer the exorbitant cost of said scam!


5 posted on 07/30/2021 6:59:42 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s a family emergency and your battery is low. Only one hour and 20 minutes to get ‘er filled up. Or, you run out of battery in the winter 100 miles from home and your on the side of a dark road. Guess what? Triple A can’t bring you a tank of battery.


6 posted on 07/30/2021 6:59:43 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Taxman

buy Tesla


7 posted on 07/30/2021 7:01:33 PM PDT by alrea
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To: Hojczyk

Well, duh. Even if you can find a charging station, who wants to wait an hour or more (maybe even 4+ hours) for your battery to charge sufficiently?

Plus, I’ve even replaced all my electric garden tools with gas ones. I can’t stand how they lose power so quickly.


8 posted on 07/30/2021 7:11:20 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Hojczyk

Read down to the end of this paper and pay attention to the math regarding the power requirements forecasted. EV are never going to work on a large scale.

https://www.eeworldonline.com/say-goodbye-to-cross-country-road-trips/?spMailingID=50646&puid=134443&E=134443&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=50646


9 posted on 07/30/2021 7:17:29 PM PDT by Clay Moore (RIP, Rush )
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We’re acquainted with a couple that was left stranded during the California wildfires. Told to flee, but power was out, so they can’t charge their electric cars.

This is why my in-laws have ALWAYS had a gas powered truck, though their home is solar powered with Tesla powerwall backups.


10 posted on 07/30/2021 7:20:28 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Hojczyk

Bookmark


11 posted on 07/30/2021 7:22:46 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Hojczyk

Poring gas into a car is an equivalent of supplying about 4 Mega Watts of electrical power. That’s an output of small power plant! Gas just contains incredible energy.
What takes a minute at gas station takes an hour at the high power charging station or all night at home garage. There is no way around that!
Even if we had charging stations everywhere, imagine busy people, running late, needing to take an hour break for recharging their vehicle.
After missing few appointments, everybody would say - forget it!
This is one reason electric vehicles will never be able to replace gas.


12 posted on 07/30/2021 7:23:03 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: Hojczyk

Green regret.


13 posted on 07/30/2021 7:27:06 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Hojczyk
Yep.

Almost pulled the trigger on a Honda Clarity hybrid, but constant nagging from PG&E about electricity usage.

Electric vehicles, per se, aren't a bad thing, but the tech still isn't there, to say nothing of the “infrastructure” that combines the worst of capitalism and socialism - with none of the potential advantages of either - that is the economy in occupied Commiefornia.

14 posted on 07/30/2021 7:28:29 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (NUKE MECCA. ABOLISH THE DEA, IRS, AND ATF)
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To: Hojczyk

With all the traffic jams, I wouldn’t take the chance of driving one.


15 posted on 07/30/2021 7:29:32 PM PDT by roving
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I watched a video of a person driving his electric car from Florida to Colorado. He planned his stops so he could recharge the batteries with just enough electricity to get to the next Super Charger station. This took anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes to charge enough to drive about 1.5 to 2 hours to the next Super Charger station. Videoing the hold trip and his numerous visits to Walmart and other retail shops. Seems a lot of Super Charger stations were located at Walmart's.

Nothing like spending 50% of the travel time in a Walmart parking lot waiting for enough charge to get down the road to....... you guessed it.... another Walmart!

Guess the recharging time problem is hitting many electric car users right in the..... trunk (family rated post).

The best story I read was the lady who purchased a Nissan Leaf with 90 mile battery range. She lived 89 miles from the dealer. OK! Well seems no one explained that batteries lose ability to hold their maximum electricity capacity quickly then start to slowly lower their maximum level. Soon the lady was unable to drive the car back to the dealer and had to have the car towed in for repairs. The first repair was...... you guessed it..... lack of battery range. Of course she got a detailed discussion on how batteries deal with capacity over their lifespan.

16 posted on 07/30/2021 7:31:57 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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If I had the money, I’d buy (or build) a strategically placed electric car charging station.

...but since charging stations also require maintenance, don’t blame me if my charging station happened to ‘down for maintenance’ every once in while, particularly when ‘woke’ people took to the road.


17 posted on 07/30/2021 7:32:02 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Obadiah
Or, you run out of battery in the winter 100 miles from home and your on the side of a dark road. Guess what? Triple A can’t bring you a tank of battery.

I call them "41st parallel people".

They live below the 41st Parallel, and don't get ground down by winter.

That's who you see pumping these useless bricks.

18 posted on 07/30/2021 7:34:33 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I think the Dems are planning to ban all non electric vehicles at a certain date, aren’t they?

Then, no choice.

By the way, I saw a “Driverless Vehicle” car two days ago in Michigan. A dopey guy was sitting in it. Some name like Yamaka or something.

It was at the stoplight next tome and I had this urge to make sudden, S shaped moves and put on my brakes and accelerate. I didn’t. Mean of me if I tried it. Wonder if millions will try it.

By the way, when the light changed it was about 5-10 seconds too slow in going forward in the lane, maybe wondering if the car ahead was right in driving again.


19 posted on 07/30/2021 7:37:43 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Clay Moore

Actually this article is still too optimistic for EV. I can drive that distance in three days, easily making over 1,200 miles a day. If I have second driver to switch. Been there done this. Never took an hour break, just few minutes to make bathroom break and fill up. Sleeping and eating in the car!
And even 600 miles reach will not help, now you will need 2 hours to recharge.
Gas car gets heating for free, as a byproduct. EV needs to burn electricity. Your reach will cut down immensely. Basically all the EV reach distance is very optimistic, calculated to make EV look great. In practical examples, the EV reach was a lot less than advertised!


20 posted on 07/30/2021 7:37:45 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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