Posted on 06/24/2021 8:51:42 AM PDT by Red Badger
“There is a ulterior motive at work here and it’s not about Rudy..........................”
Well, I agree. It’s not only about Rudy.... The Fascist Left.
They still are!
Kaitlin waking up?
She better watch her six.
“I have no idea of Rudy’s information but EVERYBODY with a brain knows full well PA was STOLEN as were the other states.”
100% agreed.
PA’s GOP is basically loaded with 2000 era Democrats. They’re mostly worthless. The only good thing about them is that they have a herd mentality ... if a few get the ball rolling on an audit, the rest *should* follow. I guarantee you that a sizable majority in this state are 100% pissed off about everything dealing with our local, state, and federal governments.
If PA somehow manages to get an audit going, I will PAY THEM to help out. I know in my bones that this state went to Trump big time, and I will NOT be shocked to learn that this state has been voting conservative for some time.
I’ve frigging had it personally ... I always expected to be impressed with the DS fraud machine ... after seeing what they did election night 2020, I can only conclude that they are rank amateurs and only succeed thanks to our communist media.
He didn’t lie.
But punishing lawyers for lying? What???
Yes, the Court of Appeals is the highest court in NY state, not the Supreme court.
If that’s the new standard then every defense lawyer in NY should probably loose their law license.
“”The factual “proof” he claimed supported his conclusion was that although Pennsylvania sent out only 1,823,148 absentee ballots before the election, 2,589,242 million absentee ballots were then counted in the election. This factual statement regarding the number of ballots mailed out before the election was simply untrue. The true facts are that 3.08 million absentee ballots were mailed out before the general election.”
Facts according to who?
I have a sneaking suspicion that the absentee totals were changed by the SOS after Giuliani began making his claims.
But I guess we’ll just have to take the election officials word for it.
If that's the new standard, then there's no attorneys left in this country.
And if he supposedly lied to courts, "demonstrably", then where's the perjury charge/conviction?
Waiting to hear them indict Trump just to mess with him.
Just curious ... do you think the 2020 election was a farce, or do you think it was on the up and up?
I’m not asking to attack you ... I’m simply curious. I don’t care what you think either way ... you’re entitled to your opinion.
To me, this entire “legal document” reads as if it was written by a political operative with one mission ... destroy Guiliani. Sure it has facts, but the left LOVES to state facts while omitting facts that may make one question their claim.
Regarding the requested vs returned ballots, yes, his numbers do not correspond with actual totals ... now. At the time he made the statement, there may have very well been an incorrect number posted on the website. The author of the document you linked makes hint at this, but dismisses it outright due to Guiliani not pointing out who made the claim, lack of screenshots of the total, and a couple of other nonsense things that read more like a Snopes “fact check” (basically speculation written as fact).
As for the claims that he was talking out of both sides of his mouth ... those excerpts need to be longer to evaluate the entire context of the conversation. I could take 4 sentences worth of discussion between you and someone about anything and spin it all sorts of ways if I wanted.
The left has attempted to destroy so many people with 30 second video clips presented by breathless, fake media talking heads and other human garbage. Those clips are basically worthless w/o seeing the entire context in which the statements were made (many on the right do this too ... its ridiculous).
Why aren’t they linking to entire discussions? All of that stuff they transcribed was recorded. Why just post a few sentences from a dialog that was a LOT longer than what was presented?
At any rate, I think this little stunt may give Giuliani a way to present evidence of fraud in court now ... at least I hope that’s the case. If they want to suspend his law license over this, they had better be certain that there wasn’t any fraud.
A loose cannon just got looser.
..we have come a long way from the Rudy war which split FR in the ‘08 campaign.
Rudy is NY’s greatest mayor and one DJT’s most loyal friends. His investigation of the Bidens and work on election fraud is heroic.
We will see the his vindication soon...
Adam Schiff’s law license remains untouched.
It’s obvious that Rudy’s real crime is supporting President Trump. I’m surprised with your vast intellect you are not able to deduce that here. Rudy has been targeted numerous times by partisan Democrats. You might want to “READ” up on the last FIVE YEARS before attacking others for ignorance.
Well, because THEIR lawyers don’t lie.
“Rudy Giuliani’s Law License Suspended Over ‘Demonstrably False’ Statements”
Seems to me if “demonstrably false” political statements made by politicians who happen to be attorneys is the criteria used for disbarment, the nation’s lawyer politicians can wave bye bye to their law license
As commented in another thread:
These investigative and disciplinary organs in the professional fields of law and medicine exist to intimidate, terrorize, and persecute political undesirables. Any later-arriving information that exonerates the people they target will not embarrass, disgrace, or discredit any of these organs, but rather will only result in these organs shifting, pivoting, changing their direction and changing their focus and emphasis, and quietly disposing of the documentary products of their earlier work directly down the memory hole.
You’re correct. Supreme Court in NY is the trial court. The Appellate Divisions of the Supreme Coury above that, and then at the top, the Court of Appeals.
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STRUCTURE & JURISDICTION OF THE COURTS
The Unified Court System consists of the following courts and court-related agencies:
APPELLATE COURTS
Court of Appeals
Appellate Divisions of the Supreme Court
Appellate Terms of the Supreme Court
County Court*
TRIAL COURTS STATEWIDE
Supreme Court
Court of Claims
Family Court
Surrogate’s Court
NEW YORK CITY
Criminal Court
Civil Court
OUTSIDE NEW YORK CITY
County Court*
City Courts
Town & Village Courts **
District Court
*primarily a trial court, but in some jurisdictions also hears appeals from local courts
**locally-funded courts
JUDICIAL DEPARTMENTS & DISTRICTS
The courts of the state have been divided into four judicial departments and twelve judicial districts.
The First Department consists of the counties within the First and Twelfth Districts; the Second Department consists of the counties within the Second, Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Judicial Districts; the Third Department consists of the counties within the Third, Fourth and Sixth Judicial Districts; and the Fourth Department consists of the counties within the Fifth, Seventh and Eighth Districts.
The jurisdiction of each court is established either by Article VI of the New York State Constitution or by statute. The courts of original jurisdiction, or trial courts, hear cases in the first instance, and the appellate courts hear and determine appeals from the decision of the trial courts.
APPELLATE COURTS
Court of Appeals
The Court of Appeals, the highest court in New York State, hears cases on appeal from the other appellate courts and, in some instances, from the courts of original jurisdiction. In most cases, its review is limited to questions of law.
Appellate Divisions
There are four Appellate Divisions of the Supreme Court, one in each of the state’s four judicial departments. The Appellate Divisions hear appeals concerning civil and criminal cases.
Appellate Terms of the Supreme Court
In the First and Second Departments, Appellate Terms have been established to hear appeals from criminal and civil cases originating in the Criminal and Civil Courts of the City of New York, and in the Second Department also from civil and criminal cases originating in District, City, Town and Village Courts.
County Court
Although the County Court is primarily a trial court, in the Third and Fourth Departments it also has appellate jurisdiction over cases originating in City, Town and Village Courts. Appeals from the County Courts are generally heard in the Appellate Division.
STATEWIDE TRIAL COURTS
Supreme Court
The Supreme Court is the trial court of unlimited original jurisdiction, but it generally hears only cases that are outside the jurisdiction of other trial courts of more limited jurisdiction. It exercises its civil jurisdiction statewide. In New York City and some other parts of the state, it also exercises jurisdiction over felony charges.
Court of Claims
The Court of Claims is a statewide court having jurisdiction over claims for monetary damages against the State.
Family Court
The Family Court is established in each county and in the City of New York. It has jurisdiction over matters involving children and families. Its caseload consists largely of proceedings involving support of dependent relatives, juvenile delinquency, child protection, persons in need of supervision, review and approval of foster care placements, paternity determinations and family offenses.
Surrogate’s Court
The Surrogate’s Court is established in every county and hears cases involving the affairs of decedents, including the probate of wills and the administration of estates. Family Court and Surrogate’s Court both have jurisdiction in adoption proceedings.
NEW YORK CITY COURTS
New York City Civil Court
The Civil Court of the City of New York tries civil cases involving amounts up to $25,000 and other civil matters referred to it by the Supreme Court. It includes a small claims part for informal dispositions of matters not exceeding $3,000 and a housing part for landlord-tenant matters and housing code violations.
New York City Criminal Court
The Criminal Court of the City of New York has jurisdiction over misdemeanors and violations. Judges of the Criminal Court also act as arraigning magistrates and conduct preliminary hearings in felony cases.
COURTS OUTSIDE NEW YORK CITY
County Court
The County Court is established in each county outside New York City. It is authorized to handle the prosecution of all crimes committed within the county, although in practice arraignments and other preliminary proceedings on felonies and trials of misdemeanors and minor offenses are handled by courts of limited jurisdiction. The County Court also has limited jurisdiction in civil cases involving amounts up to $25,000. In some counties outside of New York City, the County Court judge also functions as the Family Court judge or Surrogate or both. In these instances, the judge is referred to as a multi-hat judge.
District Court
District Courts have been established in Nassau County and the five western towns of Suffolk County. They have criminal jurisdiction over misdemeanors and lesser offenses and civil jurisdiction over claims of up to $15,000.
City Courts Outside New York City
City Courts exist in 61 cities and have criminal jurisdiction over misdemeanors and lesser offenses and civil jurisdiction over claims of up to $15,000. Some City Courts have separate parts to handle small claims or housing matters. City Court judges act as arraigning magistrates and conduct preliminary hearings in felony cases.
Town and Village Courts
Town and Village Courts have criminal jurisdiction over violations and misdemeanors and civil jurisdiction over claims of up to $3,000. As magistrates, Town and Village Court justices hold arraignments and preliminary hearings for those charged with more serious crimes. Traffic infractions are also heard in these courts.
APPELLATE AUXILIARY OPERATIONS
The major functions of the Appellate Auxiliary Operations include the State Reporter, State Board of Law Examiners, Candidate Fitness Program, Assigned Counsel Program, Law Guardian Program, Attorney Discipline Program and the Mental Hygiene Legal Service Program. With the exception of the State Reporter and the State Board of Law Examiners, which are operated under the direction of the Court of Appeals, all of the above programs are administered under the supervision of the Presiding Justice of each of the Appellate Divisions.
State Reporter
The State Reporter runs the Law Reporting Bureau under the general supervision of the Court of Appeals. The State Reporter provides to the judiciary, lawyers and the public, the published opinions and decisions of the courts considered to be noteworthy as precedent or which are of public interest.
State Board of Law Examiners
The State Board of Law Examiners runs the Candidate Examination Program under the general supervision of the Court of Appeals. The Board determines whether a candidate for the bar is fit to practice law in New York State.
Candidate Fitness Program
The Candidate Fitness Program determines whether candidates possess the demonstrated ethical character required to be admitted to the bar.
Attorney Discipline Program
Through the Attorney Discipline Program, appointed committees conduct investigations of attorney misconduct, and, in more serious cases, prosecute charges before the Appellate Divisions, which then may result in suspension of disbarment of the accused. The purpose of the program is to protect the public from lawyers who are incompetent or unethical.
Assigned Counsel Program
Pursuant to Article 18-B of the County Law, the Assigned Counsel Program administers the providing of legal services by the court to criminal defendants who are financially unable to obtain counsel.
Attorneys for Children Program
The Attorneys for Children Program administers the providing of counsel by the court to minors in certain proceedings in Family Court, such as juvenile delinquency, persons in need of supervision, and child protective proceedings. The court has the discretion to appoint an Attorney for the Child to represent a minor in any proceeding when such representation will serve the purposes of the Family Court Act.
Mental Hygiene Legal Service Program
The Mental Hygiene Legal Service Program (MHLS) provides or procures legal counsel for mentally disabled persons who are under care that restricts their freedom in judicial proceedings concerning confinement, care and treatment.
Commissioners of Jurors and County Clerks
The Juror Information Offices are responsible for supplying the trial courts with prospective jurors and for the management of a variety of functions related to discharging this responsibility, including summoning and qualification of citizens for jury service, the maintenance of juror service records, and the operation of juror assembly rooms.
In New York City, the five County Clerks serve as Commissioners of Jurors and also perform a variety of non-jury functions, including the maintenance of Supreme Court case records, the qualification of notaries public and Commissioners of Deeds, the filing of corporation and business certificates, and the processing of passports. Outside the City of New York, County Clerks are elected county-paid officials who, in addition to many record-keeping functions unrelated to the courts, maintain County Court and Supreme Court records.
Court Law Libraries
Court law libraries serve as major legal research centers and often serve as the only legal reference resources available to the bench, bar and public. There is a public access law library in each county.
If and when there is ever a true audit of the voting in PA, these folks are gonna have egg all over their faces.
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