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Why are we not using ivermectin for Covid?
https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/DrTessLawrie-IVM-for-Covid-050721.html ^ | 7 May 2021 | Dr. Tess Lowrie

Posted on 06/14/2021 1:56:14 PM PDT by zek157

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To: Allegra

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101 posted on 06/14/2021 8:38:14 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: grey_whiskers
You seem angry.

Are you ever able to discuss topics based on merits or facts? Or did you learn name-calling and emotional outbursts as a way of discourse from mom and dad?

Either way, might be good to get a grip. PS was this boilerplate cut and paste? Just wondering.

102 posted on 06/14/2021 9:36:41 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Getting in bed with authoritarianism, fascist autocracy just to “own the libs” is not “Conservatism”)
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To: saintgermaine; Jane Long; Allegra; null and void; SeekAndFind; grey_whiskers; proust; SecAmndmt; ...

Hope you read the whole article. Perhaps you can find and print here the bit about buying out a development startup for over $300million to have a lock on a new better treatment.

Information on Novavax, a new non mRNA vaccine was in the news tonight. I checked Market Watch and found this article. Anyone know any more about this new, close to approval, vaccine and how it is made? The news story said something about using moth cells to use as a multiplying media.

https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/novavax-covid-vaccine-pfizer-moderna-51623691547?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts


103 posted on 06/14/2021 10:21:23 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: AmericanInTokyo; grey_whiskers

Everything he said in his post is spot on.

You perhaps forget the wall to wall propaganda and economic deprivation brought on by the scamdemic narrative.

Killing 500,000 people by depriving them of therapeutics should make most normal people pretty angry, especially if one of the 500k murdered by medicine victims was a close relation. I know of at least 2 who were denied therapeutics. The attending MD in one case mocked the family for asking that the parent be given *something*. Nope. Nothing. No plan.


104 posted on 06/14/2021 11:07:42 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: saintgermaine; null and void; SeekAndFind; SecAmndmt; Jane Long; mewzilla; proust; All

Here is a link on how the new Novavax vaccine has been produced. Please forward this information to people you know are knowledgeable about vaccines so we can get feedback on how this compares with the mRNA vaccines and others.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/novavax-covid-19-vaccine.html


105 posted on 06/14/2021 11:08:59 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

am a news junkie and heard Trump mention HCQ and the virus stopper ZINC twice after he was CCed Dr. zelenko’s 3/23/2020 letter on lifesaving low cost Covid treatment. Ditto Fauci. After that they only mentioned HCQ, and in mid May


He talked therapeutics a lot. But 1) Trump is banned from social media so all of his messages on the subject are deleted and other people are getting theirs deleted,too. 2) I looked at Trump’s website and he has 2 HCQ posts in the last 3 days.
In fact, Trump and his team were doing everything possible to get vaccines AND therapeutics invented and distributed, and Biden was attacking them every step of the way. If anything, we weren’t supporting Trump enough earlier on.

For updates and good news on some of the masks and vaccine lawsuits and what YOU can do start listening to the Daniel Horowitz podcast. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-893-we-need-to-plow-over-covid-fascism-plantation/id1065050908?i=1000525463827


106 posted on 06/15/2021 12:24:27 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

There was no need for a vaccine given how readily these simple therapeutics can handle Covid, let alone these killer vaccines given EUA and massive government distribution.


107 posted on 06/15/2021 12:38:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Keep trolling.

Everything I said about the “official” “enlightened” “SmarterThanYou Because SCIENCE!”™ response to the coof was accurate.

It was not cut and paste; but it is a dead giveaway of your troll status that such was your own first supposition (SJWs and trolls always *project*).


108 posted on 06/15/2021 1:56:27 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Explicit charts broken down to (say) the equivalent of the Zip-code level, or it didn’t happen.
Lags in reporting and smearing averages around make aggregate statistics unreliable.

Troll.


109 posted on 06/15/2021 2:23:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SecAmndmt
Yes. And then there are the ones who come out and lie that there is no treatment. They are scum.

They are far beneath scum.

110 posted on 06/15/2021 2:29:03 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: humblegunner

humblegunner is FR’s resident “Seagull”. He flies in and shits on someone and the more you feed him the more he does it.


111 posted on 06/15/2021 4:25:28 AM PDT by ehvsteve
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To: gleeaikin

I’m not interested in a vaccine for something that is 99% survivable...and, that there are known, proven, safe and effective treatments for.


112 posted on 06/15/2021 4:54:28 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: gleeaikin; saintgermaine; null and void; SecAmndmt; Jane Long; mewzilla; proust; All

RE: Here is a link on how the new Novavax vaccine has been produced

This is a thread about Ivermectin, not the Novavax vaccine (I personally have posted two separate threads about Novavax at FR ).

Please, let’s keep these topics separate.


113 posted on 06/15/2021 8:48:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AmericanInTokyo; zek157

RE: epidemiological data show that contagiousness began to decrease in India before the release of new official guidelines recommending the use of ivermectin. That is as at least applies to India for starters.

Really? Based on what study do you conclude this?

If it isn’t because of Ivermectin, on what major factor do you attribute the decrease in cases in India?

The answer to this question is of utmost importance. If factor X caused the decrease in cases and death, then obviously, we have to continue encouraging factor X.

But you haven’t mentioned what that Factor X is.


114 posted on 06/15/2021 8:53:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: conservative98; All

But what, who caused President Trump to stop mentioning virus stopper ZINC between 3/23/2020 and Fauci’s useless trial announced 5/14/2020? And does Trump mention zinc along with his recent HCQ posts?

Six times I tried to post a scientific based comment on this topic at an AOL article. I was told I was “violating community standards” and was canceled. Meanwhle seriously nasty comments about Trump and Biden were being allowed to be posted.


115 posted on 06/15/2021 11:19:04 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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India’s largest state, Utter Pradash, had started providing free Ivermectin back in, I think, February. Then I think it was forbidden for a while, but the big death toll surge caused various states to ignor the ban. Now an Indian employee at WHO is being legally charged for causing deaths by stopping Ivermectin.


116 posted on 06/15/2021 11:29:02 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

I’m just saying he didn’t stop talking about it so don’t put all the blame on him for it getting dismissed if that’s what you’re saying happened. Why it got dismissed it another issue: FDA, one biased bad report, Fauci downplaying all treatments as unproven, Democrat Party Press, the Democrat Party, Joe Biden, etc.

April 5 2020:
President Trump doubled down Sunday on his push for the use of an anti-malarial drug against the coronavirus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/us/politics/trump-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus.html

09 April 2020:
Broadcaster cuts into Trump briefing so doctor can refute president’s ‘mystifying’ claims...suggesting zinc in addition to hydroxychloroquine would be helpful’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/msnbc-trump-coronavirus-zinc-fact-check-doctor-vin-gupta-a9458466.html

April 14, 2020:
Remarks by President Trump in a Meeting with Recovered COVID-19 Patients
THE PRESIDENT: So you had the — the azithromycin and —

MR. CAMPBELL: Correct.

THE PRESIDENT: — and the zinc too? Zinc?


THE PRESIDENT: Why did you take the hydroxy? Why did you do that? You saw it on television?

MR. CAMPBELL: Yeah, I asked them about it. And I didn’t know what it was called at the time. I just said the malaria drug. And then he said, “Okay…” And they ran through some different thoughts about it.

THE PRESIDENT: And they had? They had it?

MR. CAMPBELL: They had it. They sure did.

THE PRESIDENT: Because we’ve stocked up the hospitals. We’ve got 29 million doses.

MR. CAMPBELL: Yeah.

THE PRESIDENT: We stocked up a lot of — I think almost all of the hospitals. That’s good. So you saw it somewhere and you said you’ll take anything right now?

MR. CAMPBELL: Absolutely. So, actually, my business partner, Troy Evans, he’s the one who sent me a text and said, “Hey, ask if you can get that.”

THE PRESIDENT: That’s great.
https://it.usembassy.gov/remarks-by-president-trump-in-a-meeting-with-recovered-covid-19-patients-april-14-2020/


117 posted on 06/15/2021 12:26:23 PM PDT by conservative98
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RE: India’s largest state, Utter Pradash, had started providing free Ivermectin back in, I think, February. Then I think it was forbidden for a while, but the big death toll surge caused various states to ignor the ban.

There is one factor that cannot be attributed to the use or disuse of Ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh.

The sudden surge in April in Uttar Pradesh occurred as a result of a sudden homeward bound surge in migrant workers from large cities like Mumbai.

The Delta variant did not start in Uttar Pradesh. It started in large, dense cities like Mumbai where hundreds of thousands of Uttar Pradesh workers come to work. When the wave of the virus hit Mumbai, the city locked down and these migrant workers could not work any longer. It was either go home to Uttar Pradesh or starve in Mumbai.

The sudden rush back home from Mumbai of hundred of thousands, some already infected and crowding on trains going home CAUSED the huge surge in cases in Uttar Pradesh, Ivermectin notwithstanding.

Still, the liberal distribution of Ivermectin mitigated this disaster and the state of Uttar Pradesh was able to control the case and death rates within a month.

This is not mere speculation, the dynamic study of case data by reputable data analysts who looked at India tells us so.

I don’t have the Youtube link with me at this time, but will share it later. It was a careful study of the case data presented and explained for an hour in an interview on the channel of Dr. Mobeen Syed.


118 posted on 06/15/2021 12:59:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: grey_whiskers

Actually I suspect you are actually a lib disrupting and could be embedded here on behalf of ANTIFA or done other leftist outfit. My own record here on FR for 21 years or so is pretty solid. I have my own mind.


119 posted on 06/15/2021 2:38:45 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Getting in bed with authoritarianism, fascist autocracy just to “own the libs” is not “Conservatism”)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

*ROFL*

That’s one of the stupidest accusations I’ve ever seen on FR, including the crevo threads and COVID wars.


120 posted on 06/15/2021 2:46:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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