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H-E-B's North Texas Arrival Adding ‘Salt to the Wound' for Food Desert Neighborhoods
NBC DFW ^ | June 11, 2021 | Maria Guerrero

Posted on 06/13/2021 3:16:11 AM PDT by fwdude

H-E-B's plan to build three new stores in Collin County is being celebrated in some circles while being criticized in others.

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“Metaphorically it’s adding salt to the wound,” said Dallas City Council member Casey Thomas.

Those working for years to lure brand-name grocers to Dallas, particularly south of I-30, say these kinds of announcements are just another heartbreak.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; dallas; food; heb; texas
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To: fwdude

I’ve been a customer of H.E.B. for a half century. I have shaken my head many times over the years and remarked to myself and others that it is literally astounding how well they manage a grocery store and pharmacy with millions of items on the shelfs and in the warehouse. To my knowledge, they’ve never closed a store (but I could be wrong on that).


21 posted on 06/13/2021 6:12:47 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: fwdude

Food deserts don’t necessarily mean areas of crime. Several Central TX counties have only one or two grocery stores. That’s not a typo. That’s 1-2 grocers in entire counties.

The closest store to us is an HEB and it has had Venezuelan style shopping with empty shelves for decades. On top of that, HEB knows being the only game in town, they can send us the garbage their other stores refuse. Moldy fuzzy strawberries, maggoty potatoes and having to make what amounts to drug deals with the guy in the back for frozen fish. When covid hit, I gave up and am now driving four towns over for groceries.

Last year, San Saba County’s only grocery store burned so they were without until they could throw together another.


22 posted on 06/13/2021 6:26:40 AM PDT by bgill
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To: fwdude

If they’d spent that money on a few sets of brass balls, badges and billy clubs they’d probably have had the store and it would be open today!


23 posted on 06/13/2021 6:36:01 AM PDT by CMSMC
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To: wetgundog

In a riot, that will slow them down in a millisecond.

************

Don’t think riots are the question as much as the day by day
walk out of certain items. A little here and there begins to
add up.


24 posted on 06/13/2021 6:46:08 AM PDT by deport ( )
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To: bgill

have only one or two grocery stores.

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Yep, population is one of the keys to locations of some type
stores.


25 posted on 06/13/2021 6:50:38 AM PDT by deport ( )
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To: fwdude

Gee, I wonder is these “food deserts” are filled with criminals and thieves that are never prosecuted or ran off by law enforcement of any kind?
Hmm….


26 posted on 06/13/2021 6:52:53 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: fwdude

Quit stealing all the stuff from the stores and they might come back.


27 posted on 06/13/2021 6:55:09 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: fwdude

I never thought about that. Of course there will have to be some sort of government subsidy for these mandated “Oasis” locations. A new growth area. Step up one and all and YOU could become the next Elon Musk.

Here’s a story from one of the most socialistic cities in America from last week. The serfs are tiring of the lawlessness apparently but of course they don’t run the asylum and the elites always get the last word until…guillotine anyone?

https://www.q13fox.com/news/seattle-police-arrest-53-shoplifters-in-a-single-day-during-citywide-theft-operation

Here’s the crazy part and one that should motivate people to save feathers and start warming the tar pots. But it won’t, just google Seattle Mayor’s race fundraising leaders and look at the trio of losers who has raised the most cash. Seattle is proof positive of you can’t fix stupid on a citywide scale.

Here’s the money quote from the article;

“The big bust occurred at nine stores on Wednesday in just under 15 hours. Of the 53 people arrested, 16 of them were booked in King County Jail.”


28 posted on 06/13/2021 7:28:37 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: fwdude

I don’t go anywhere near H E B any more. About 5 or 6 years ago it was my main place for groceries.

Went in one day and went to the deli, tried to get a half pound of turkey sliced. Girl behind the counter was one I had already had trouble with, mexican and spoke no english. Instead of being able to ask me how thick to slice it, she pointed to a sign that shows thickness and slicer number. I had to point at which turkey I wanted.

If you know anything about me, I was seriously unhappy by this point. I told her “between one and two” which is what I wanted, she said OK two, and sliced it too thick. She showed me the first slice, I told her no, I VERY CLEARLY SAID between one and two. Which is what I usually got, no problem. until now.

So she handed it off to another woman who did speak english, I was not hiding the fact that I did not like what was going on. So I clearly told her thinner than that and a half pound. She handed me a FULL POUND, still sliced too thick.

I threw it in the cart, literally, made it very clear I was far from a happy camper, left the store and have always refused to go back, period. My money pays for her to stand there unable to speak english, which seriously pisses me off. She’s not even supposed to BE HERE, I’ll be damned if I will pay her way. I’m sure she still has her job, she had already been there at least a year that I knew of, but I will not put one penny of my money into her paycheck. HEB can take a hike. I will NOT go back.

That’s not the only place, illegals work just about everywhere you look around east texas. Others do the same, but that’s the only one that had someone who literally made no effort in over a year to learn english. The first time I had to deal with the same girl was a year or more earlier, plenty time for her to at least try to learn a little of our language. Mexicans I worked with in carpenter jobs and machine shops did, no reason for her not to.

Even the mexican grocery store down the street, where I go sometimes, has people who do speak english. They have things I can’t find anywhere else, quite often it’s the only place in town that has any Habanero peppers or tangerines. And everyone speaks english. I’m not crazy about the place, but I do like to keep Habaneros around, especially dried and powdered. At least they do try to communicate...


29 posted on 06/13/2021 7:49:48 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (You can't fix stupid, but you can numb it with a 2X4...)
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To: deport
"A little here and there begins to add up.

Especially when the gross margin for grocery stores is so small. IIRC it is about 1.5%.

30 posted on 06/13/2021 7:50:29 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: fwdude

Well maybe if Casey Thomas’ constituents didn’t steal everything in sight there wouldn’t be a food desert.

A while back listening to a local radio guy in Augusta talking to “community leader”, who was complaining that Publix created a food desert, after closing a store, in one area of the city. Radio guy brings up the point that they closed because the amount of shoplifting made it impossible for the store to function. The response was just……equity, fairness, racism, capitalism, equity, blah blah blah blah

Of course the same community leader was championing his new “youth leadership” program that was only open to black kids.


31 posted on 06/13/2021 7:53:28 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Libloather

When was the last time you were at a Home Depot. All the cordless power tools are behind cages or linked with the anti theft cords. And I live out in the country.


32 posted on 06/13/2021 7:55:10 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: bgill

Point taken. But in a town like San Saba with a couple thousand people, a supermarket is kind of hard to support.


33 posted on 06/13/2021 7:59:27 AM PDT by fwdude (“I do think at a certain point you've paid enough taxes.” — Not Obama)
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To: PeteB570

So, a Target store in Atlanta. On Moreland Ave became one of the anchor stores in the strip mall. Very much a food and retail desert. It has. Kroger, bestbuy, Lowe’s and a few other decent places to shop in an area that had nothing.

The place targets the inner city liberals and hipsters that are gentrifying the area.

Anywho….. the Target is #1 in the amount of theft and shoplifting in the company. In order to get tax breaks they signed a did joins deal with the city but apparently, also, use the store a one big tax deduction for all the losses it takes.

The folks at Lowe’s aren’t even allowed to confront shoplifters as they walk freely, in and out of the contractors door.


34 posted on 06/13/2021 8:02:42 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

...usually followed by ‘is it fair to put people in jail who are just hungry?’ Decriminalization of shoplifting in California has absolutely changed the marketplace landscape. And it isn’t just food markets which are pulling up stakes and investing elsewhere.


35 posted on 06/13/2021 8:03:04 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: fwdude

And of that $2.9 million, have to wonder how much of it made it back to the local politicians that gave it to the developers.


36 posted on 06/13/2021 8:04:03 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: kingu

IIRC, LA stopped responding to theft calls below $1000. Dallas put a $750 cap on their theft/shoplifting cases a few years ago due to an insane DA that was elected.

And just recently, Asheville, NC said the cops will not respond to theft calls less than $1000. Of course, the rich, white, liberals took a huge chunk of money from the cops they openly hate, causing over 30 to leave in the last year. 30 may not seem like a lot but when you have a small department that many could be 30% or more of all the folks you have on patrol.


37 posted on 06/13/2021 8:14:22 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Born to Conserve

There is a cop unit parked at the curb in front, 24/7. Any farther in, and even the police couldn’t make it viable.

“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

At Wal-Mart in East Peoria, Illinois, police have a sub station, on the premises, built and maintained by Wal-Mart.


38 posted on 06/13/2021 8:28:24 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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To: Born to Conserve

A Korean food chain opened a supermarket at the outer margin of a philly food desert. There is a cop unit parked at the curb in front, 24/7.


There’s an Asian supermarket in the Atlanta area that had a police vehicle that had a platform that looked like a guard tower that raised a man high into the air so he could observe the entire parking lot. I took that to be a bad sign.


39 posted on 06/13/2021 8:35:37 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: fwdude

It is the price of as much solitude as you can find.

I’ll gladly pay it. Stock up. Plan your trip and make it once a month. Organic milk will keep that long, the other, not so much.

Stay away from rural settings. It is just too inconvenient. You won’t like it.


40 posted on 06/13/2021 8:57:52 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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