Posted on 06/12/2021 6:36:46 AM PDT by rktman
Basically Afghanistan will go back to what it was because the Afghan people are Islamists....
” because of that, our withdrawal from Afghanistan will be messy and expensive”
Yes, but don’t let it stop us from leaving. It’s noneof our business,and never was.
“Not my monkeys, not my circus.”
Makes it even more sad when the vets appear on the Tunnels To Towers ads.
Ford wanted to continue supporting South Vietnam with funds and arms; congressional Dems blocked it.
There was a far superior choice to be had for Truman (Korea), Ford (Viet Nam), and both bushes (Middle East)...
Castle Bravo showed the way...
Communism & islam are now rolling victoriously across the planet because these presidents preferred to jack off as a solution...
Dems blocked additional funding and arms for South Vietnam; they were literally running out of ammo in 1975. Ford didn’t make the deal to take us out of the war; that was Nixon’s scheme (leaving while pretending we “won”).
Sadly have to agree. When Bush decided to do nation building was when he lost his compass and the legitimacy of the operation. It was great to watch the Taliban scurrying from our forces like rats and mice, but the idea of grafting some western style democracy onto the primitive tribal stalks was fatuous and doomed to frustration.
Nixon’s deal required Nixon to back it up - as in the response to the NVA’s “Easter Offensive”. When the Left took out Nixon, they had effectively won the war for the NVA.
Which is a childish and ridiculous and even criminal answer - we as a people are better than that. You “armchair heroes” need to stay out of the grownup’s way when it comes to fighting wars.
Right - Ford wanted to honor the agreement, but congressional Dems voted down the funds/arms. Ford was furious; he knew we had betrayed South Vietnam. In fact, the terms Nixon negotiated made the fall of Saigon inevitable; the South Vietnamese president was furious with him (allowing the NVA to remain in parts of South Vietnam while we left, for instance).
Every one of those t_rds should have been tried and imprisoned for treason as soon as they set foot back in our country after going to Hanoi. Every slime who carried the enemy's flag in this country needed jail time.
How long does anyone think that WWII combatants would have stood for civilians in the rear carrying Nazi flags or doing propaganda broadcasts for the Japanese? Ain't a "1st Amendment issue" when we our own lives on the line - it's treason.
The failure to declare war makes that impossible to prosecute - and exposes your prisoners to all kinds of horrors because they aren’t covered by the Geneva Conventions.
In a legal sense the Americans were armed foreigners in someone else’s country - and that is how the North Vietnamese treated them.
Those pictures remind me of a family friend who, by his count, served “1 1/2”* tours in Vietnam.
A good farm raised country boy he was raised eating everything his family grew/raised. After he finally discharged and came home it took a couple of years before he would eat ham.
To this day he will have absolutely nothing to do with “those motherf’ing lima beans”. He still refuses to let his wife put lima beans on the table, much less near his plate.
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He was wounded on his first tour and, between treatment, rehab and travel time missed three months of his tour. Unwilling to take the easy way out he volunteered for another tour.
On a side note Tet blew up less than two months after his discharge. His best friend was killed retaking Hue City.
They didn't want to push that too far with their definitions. We could've killed quite a few more NVA/VC that we had captured than they held of Americans.
Was definitely a taste that kept on giving.
Do ya miss The Donald YET?
As of 11/4/2020
Hmmm...
Having had to endure (from 1951-1953) the result of Truman's bad decision, I have first hand knowledge to support my views...
Now, how was Korea “Truman’s bad decision”?
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