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What China is learning from the battle that changed the course of World War II in the Pacific
Business Insider ^ | 6/4/21 | Benjamin Brimelow

Posted on 06/04/2021 4:46:39 PM PDT by MAGA2017

On June 4, 1942, the US and Imperial Japanese navies faced off a few hundred miles from Midway Atoll in the central Pacific Ocean.

The US Navy learned many lessons from the battle that helped win the war. Even now, 79 years later, the battle is still studied extensively — including by China.

Today, however, a similar fight between the US and Chinese navies would likely play out much differently.

Longer-range weapons would increase the distance over which both sides' could operate. Anti-ship missiles in particular have raised the stakes for surface ships and added to the importance of airpower and submarines. Satellites have also made it harder for navies to hide.

Moreover, China would be in a much different position than Japan.

While Japan never recovered from losing four of its best fleet carriers, China has in recent years proved itself a highly capable shipbuilder, albeit in peacetime. (By the end of World War II, the US had built another 28 fleet carriers and 71 smaller escort carriers.)

With China's navy now the largest in the world and its relationship with the US tense, it makes sense for the Chinese to study one of history's greatest naval battles, even if times have changed.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: battleofmidway; ccp; china; germany; japan; midway; midwayatoll; navy; pacific; usn; usnavy; war; worldwareleven; wwii
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To: Bookshelf

I wouldn’t want to be on a large deck - but finding a low RCS tin can is no easy thing. Doesn’t matter how many satellites or Mil Patrol A/C you have.


41 posted on 06/04/2021 6:40:09 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Our military is hard at work self destructing.
42 posted on 06/04/2021 6:57:29 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: MAGA2017
The chicoms wouldn't stand a chance against our newly developed super weapons...

The U.S. can field three powerful fleets & their crews who have been outfitted with, and highly trained in, the latest techniques of caring, diversity, climate-preserving technologies, and wokeness...

When the chinks see those attacking planes and rockets with their emblazoned LGBT and BLM flags flying over dropping rose petals, they will immediately surrender...

We will kick pat those commie asses...

43 posted on 06/04/2021 7:36:01 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Affect vs Effect
44 posted on 06/04/2021 7:56:30 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I met George Gay at a Smithsonian Institution talk about Midway. He said that after he was shot down and in his life-raft, “he had the best seat in the house” to the battle.

George Bush Sr. was also the sole survivor of a Torpedo plane squadron who attacked the Japanese.


45 posted on 06/04/2021 10:25:01 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: No_Mas_Obama
Midway 2019 - Dive Bombing the Kaga
46 posted on 06/05/2021 1:18:02 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Bonemaker

I think China’s ultimate goal is to “get even” with Japan.


More than get even. Get extincted.

Until a Chinese General saw Nagasaki and Hiroshima right after the war ended, they were demanding that all Japs over 18 be killed, all Japs under 18 be sterilized, the men would be slaves and the women, ‘comfort women’. The General said on seeing those cities, “You Americans do good work” - The Rape of Nanking.


47 posted on 06/05/2021 4:14:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: wny

The Chinese simply need to stand, watch and laugh as the US self-destructs


And if the Americans get too uppity, they will just send a bunch of container ships into the American fleet and automatically the Navy’s Aegis Destroyers will be drawn to them like moths to light.


48 posted on 06/05/2021 4:18:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

The Chinese will carry that grudge for a thousand years.


49 posted on 06/05/2021 4:40:06 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MAGA2017

At the Naval War college many yeas ago I witnessed a computer simulation of the battle of Midway. The tech said no matter how different you start to play the simulation and if you use the same order of battle as in the real battle of midway, then the IJN always seems to win. He said you can’t program luck.


50 posted on 06/05/2021 4:47:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: buckalfa
In the age of missles and electronics, are navy warships little more than floating coffins?

In the age of hyper-sonic bullets are soldiers obsolete?

51 posted on 06/05/2021 4:48:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: buckalfa
In the age of missles and electronics, are navy warships little more than floating coffins? Can defenses cope against overwhelming numbers let alone hypersonics? The old plan to fight the last war syndrom. Or am I foolishly mistaken?

Yes you are. The PLAN gets one "surprise attack" at the very beginning. After that the US Navy will operate on a war time footing. Another thing is most civilians think that our navy ships are made of paper machete and are fragile things. They are most definitely not. Ship are designed to be damaged repaired and return to battle. Also ships are designed to be upgraded with new systems too.

The biggest threat is the general de industrialization of the USA and the lack of Naval repair facilitates. This short sighted Free Trade BS is the biggest threat. Thanks Free Traitor™ for nothing...

52 posted on 06/05/2021 5:01:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Western Phil

They should rework it as a role-playing game — for the most part, kids are not readers.


53 posted on 06/05/2021 5:03:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

That there’s a man of arms.

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/oral-histories/wwii/battle-of-midway/recollections-of-lieutenant-george-gay.html

https://usnhistory.navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/05/25/ensign-george-h-gays-fateful-day-june-4-1942/

https://www.historynet.com/improbable-ensign-george-gay-at-midway.htm

GHW Bush didn’t serve at the Battle of Midway, but was the youngest combat pilot when he began service. The incident with the loss of his crew happened in 1944.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/navy-aviator-george-h-w-bush-and-his-squadron-attacked


54 posted on 06/05/2021 5:41:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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