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Matt Gaetz associate pleads guilty to six federal crimes, including sex trafficking of teen
Just The News ^ | 05/17/2021 | Nicholas Sherman

Posted on 05/17/2021 12:13:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

The law is doesn’t matter if girl lies about her age or used fake id. The man is still responsible. LaW should be changed imo.


81 posted on 05/17/2021 3:18:38 PM PDT by gcparent (MAGA)
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To: DoodleDawg

The plea deal does not mention GaEtz by name. It’s 84 pages.


82 posted on 05/17/2021 3:20:00 PM PDT by gcparent (MAGA)
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To: setter
I personally know some former DC pages.

Its a crazy place.

If Congressman Gaetz is guilty he deserves the consequences.

Unfortunately, he is being tried and convicted in the public square.


83 posted on 05/17/2021 3:30:27 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (I'll get the jab, if they make me. But it'll take more than one or two of them to do it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Matt Gaetz is fighting this. I wish when Conservatives get to DC they would not mess around with young people... we need to go there, get our job done, and retire.... Not hang around for 50 years...


84 posted on 05/17/2021 3:33:34 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Rest In PEACE, Rush H. Limbaugh III. You are missedhe t already...)
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To: for-q-clinton

This is probably one of the biggest misconceptions when it comes to cooperating defendants. Oftentimes, the government isn’t counting on the testimony of someone in this kind of circumstance because at the end of the day, how credible (in the eyes of a jury) is a guy going to be who was just convicted of trafficking children? Not very.

Instead, what the government wants is the story. They want the dates, the names, the dollar amounts etc. From there, they’ll uncover the audit trail and it’s that trail that is used to convict the guilty, not necessarily the trial testimony of the cooperating conspirator.


85 posted on 05/17/2021 3:35:34 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: for-q-clinton

I believe politically-motivated prosecutors regularly suborn perjury.


86 posted on 05/17/2021 3:37:46 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: caww
Even if it’s not true

Remember the Liberal Rules of Truth:

1. Truth is whatever serves the Party.
2. If you repeat something often enough, it becomes true.
3. If the facts contradict the narrative, the facts lie.

87 posted on 05/17/2021 3:42:20 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
Yep- lets talk about the pic of naked Hunter with the 14 year old niece. The one he admitted to him being banned from seeing her because of being sexually inappropriate. And throw in the illegal gun scandal while you are at it.

And the crack, and apparently child porn.

But it's OK. His daddy is the Resident.

88 posted on 05/17/2021 3:46:54 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: DoodleDawg
The prosecution is not going to sign off on a plea deal without first knowing what they will get in return.

I said they are trying to flip him against Gaetz and anytime before sentencing works.

89 posted on 05/17/2021 3:59:32 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: teevolt

Guilty already?


90 posted on 05/17/2021 4:00:42 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: ScubaDiver

If they are having to negotiate a plea agreement with Greene then they don’t have have any actual evidence against Gaetz.

Because they’ve already been through this guy’s financials, phone, email and text records. Shouldn’t they have the testimony of the girl?

I think the “co-operation” is really just making public statements as part of the smear campaign, because if this guy was really so tight with Gaetz then the entanglement in the records would be so clear and obvious they wouldn’t need to make a deal and they would have indicted Gaetz already with the same evidence they indicted this guy with.


91 posted on 05/17/2021 4:17:37 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: SeekAndFind

The Feds would not go to this trouble unless it was to get Gaetz. They are squeezing this guy, Joel Greenberg, like they squeezed Michael Cohen, Trump’s lawyer. This is a strategy known to work. Make the RAT. Feds 101.


92 posted on 05/17/2021 6:06:43 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Valpal1

You’re looking at the case purely from the perspective of the sex-crimes angle which is understandable because it’s the most salacious and easiest to prove; the girl (or girls) is either of legal age or isn’t. That’s a slam-dunk particularly if they have a cooperating ‘victim.’

But, Greenberg was up to his eyeballs in public corruption charges. The sex-trafficking really only represented a fraction of his criminal exposure.

It’s interesting that the DoJ division that’s doing this investigation isn’t the trafficking division, but rather, the public corruption people. They’re not trying to tie up the loose ends of the Mann Act violations. They’re trying to see if Gaetz - or anyone else for that matter - played any part in or received any benefit from Greenberg’s abuse of office. That’s what’s taking so long. Public corruption cases take forever.


93 posted on 05/17/2021 6:22:49 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: ScubaDiver

But wouldn’t the same apply to PC charges? They’ve already been through all Greenberg’s financials and electronic communications. They should have a shit ton of evidence.

This plea agreement stinks and combined with that bizarro attempt to blackmail Gaetz Sr. strikes me as an all hat and no cattle play.

So they will milk it for everything in the court of public opinion, because they don’t have squat to use in actual court where there are rules (not that judges enforce them these days).


94 posted on 05/17/2021 8:06:38 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

Look at the Kwame Kilpatrick investigation. It started no later than 2007 yet Kilpatrick wasn’t indicted until 2010. In the intervening years, the feds had rolled up a number of people in Kilpatrick’s orbit several of whom turned state’s evidence but it still took the feds more than 3-years to put a case together against Kilpatrick. As I said, public corruption cases take forever.


95 posted on 05/18/2021 5:42:47 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: caww

Re: 36 - and that has what to do with Matt Gaetz?


96 posted on 05/18/2021 6:41:35 AM PDT by Fury
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