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'Herd Immunity' Not Possible in U.S., Experts Say, But We May Not Need It
PJ Media ^ | 05/05/2021 | Rick Moran

Posted on 05/05/2021 8:19:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s becoming increasingly clear as the pandemic continues to wind down that the goal of achieving “herd immunity” in the U.S. won’t be possible — at least, as it’s defined by public health officials. Too many of us decline to be vaccinated for the U.S. to meet the target goal of 70-90 percent of citizens who have either been vaccinated or contracted Covid-19.

Instead, we’ve got to accept the fact that the virus will become a “manageable threat” and continue to bedevil the world for years to come.

“The virus is unlikely to go away,” said Rustom Antia, an evolutionary biologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “But we want to do all we can to check that it’s likely to become a mild infection.”

Part of the problem is the coronavirus itself. The virus is mutating at an alarming rate. Some of the variants have been shown to be more infectious. Some are more virulent and cause more severe symptoms.

But so far, the vaccines that have been approved for use have demonstrated great effectiveness against all Covid variants. That’s the good news. The bad news is that some virologists believe that a variant is going to come along that is resistant to the current crop of vaccines. Then what?

For the moment, this scenario is unlikely. It’s probable that the vaccine will give at least some protection, which means fewer hospitalizations and deaths regardless of what variant is causing the infection.


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KEYWORDS: covid19; herdimmunity
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To: bgill

Even if it honestly, genuinely did disappear, does anyone actually think that TPTB would admit it?

It would take away their excuse for controlling un and forcing the use of their new bioweapon they are calling a vaccine.


21 posted on 05/05/2021 10:06:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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Because open borders with zero restrictions keep adding to the herd...


22 posted on 05/05/2021 10:21:45 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: SeekAndFind

“The virus is unlikely to go away,”

WHAT! I thought all we needed was two weeks to slow the spread. /s


23 posted on 05/05/2021 10:38:18 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: DugwayDuke; kearnyirish2

As usual, the experts contradict each other.
I am more likely to believe you can still get and spread Covid-19 after getting the ‘gene therapy’ jab.. but you won’t get as sick.
We shall see.
I personally won’t get it.. I have enough inflammation and auto-immune conditions as it is.. don’t need any more!


24 posted on 05/05/2021 10:40:11 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s probable that the vaccine will give at least some protection, which means fewer hospitalizations and deaths regardless of what variant is causing the infection.

A bad flu.

25 posted on 05/05/2021 10:40:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: metmom

As Tucker says, if they can force this on you, they can force anything. I know that because they forced an unelected “president” on us already...


26 posted on 05/05/2021 11:00:11 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ClearCase_guy; DugwayDuke

“Why do they demand that vaccinated people still wear the mask?”

Be cause the government itself, not right-wingers, said you could still catch and transmit the virus after “vaccination”.


27 posted on 05/05/2021 11:02:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ClearCase_guy

ClearCase_guy wrote: “Why do they demand that vaccinated people still wear the mask?”

Very simply this: suppose the government were to say those vaccinated did not have to wear a mask anywhere, in stores, restaurants, etc. Now how long before the unvaccinated claim they have been vaccinated and don’t have to wear a mask? There’s no way short of a vaccine passport to prove you’ve had the vaccine. Given a choice between vaccine passports or trusting the unvaccinated to be truthful....


28 posted on 05/05/2021 11:23:23 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: kearnyirish2

kearnyirish2 wrote: “Because the government itself, not right-wingers, said you could still catch and transmit the virus after “vaccination”.”

No, the reason is far simpler. There’s no way to distinguish between who has been vaccinated and who has not. Too many would claim they’ve been vaccinated to avoid wearing the masks. There’s no way short of a vaccine passport to prove you’ve had the vaccine. Given a choice between vaccine passports or trusting the unvaccinated to be truthful....


29 posted on 05/05/2021 11:25:41 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: KEVLAR

KEVLAR wrote: “Including a link to the CDC removes all credibility from your post.”

The CDC is far more credible than America’s Front Line Doctors or Childrens Health Defense. Or, any of the anti-vaxxer propaganda sites often referenced here.


30 posted on 05/05/2021 11:27:43 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke; KEVLAR; mewzilla; metmom

KEVLAR
KEVLAR wrote: “Including a link to the CDC removes all credibility from your post.”

The CDC is far more credible than America’s Front Line Doctors or Childrens Health Defense. Or, any of the anti-vaxxer propaganda sites often referenced here.


So says one of the busiest CDC/FRVP trolls.

If you think people believe the CAUGHT LYING CDC, over actual doctors who are getting the truth out, you are truly living under a rock.


31 posted on 05/05/2021 11:32:09 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

Jane Long wrote: “If you think people believe the CAUGHT LYING CDC, over actual doctors who are getting the truth out, you are truly living under a rock.”

Are you referring to Stella Immanuel, one of the spokespersons for AFD. Do you believe she’s getting the truth out when she claims alien DNA is used in medical treatments, scientists are developing vaccines to prevent people from becoming religious, that demons are impregnating women, and blames witches for certain medical conditions. She also believes in witchcraft and astral sex.

For some reason I would trust the CDC before I trust Stella or any of the AFD she hangs out with.


32 posted on 05/05/2021 12:29:41 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I’ve read that that is the beliefs of Stella’s native country religion. I have no idea what she subscribes to, personally.

I do know that she is a practicing physician in Houston, TX.

I guess if she were a total crackpot the Texas Medical Board would not allow her to practice.

Now....since we’re basing ‘trust’ on association....

Your crazed, NON-physician, FRAUDci, believes children should receive vax’s and they should wear masks at summer camp.

THAT alone should dispell any amount of trust anyone EVER thought about having in him.


33 posted on 05/05/2021 12:36:02 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: DugwayDuke; ClearCase_guy; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Secret Agent Man; Jan_Sobieski; ...
Given a choice between vaccine passports or trusting the unvaccinated to be truthful....

You sure expect the best of everyone, don’t you, like presum8ng all the vaccinated would lie.

Like nobody would forge a vax passport, right????

How about making it more convenient and fool proof and just requiring a mark on you right hand or forehead for proof. That’d be right up your alley, right Mr. Nazi?

34 posted on 05/05/2021 12:39:23 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
They could just tattoo all the vax rebels


35 posted on 05/05/2021 1:08:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: metmom; DugwayDuke; grey_whiskers

Spot on, metmom!

Dugway keeps outing himself, day after day.

First, he was a mandate the fake shots tool, now he’s a mark of the vax tool.

How about we all go about our own business, as we did BEFORE this PlanDEMic, and take our chances on catching whatever might be out there....oh, my!!

If you don’t feel safe, dug, stay in your mom’s basement and cower.

Just like if WE don’t feel safe around the vaxxed, then we can do the same.

We don’t need your daddy FRAUDci and his *experts* telling us when/where/how we can go about our daily lives enjoying our God given freedoms.

We see who isn’t truthful, here.....the one playing word games about ‘trusting the un-’vax’d’ to be truthful’.

What brown shirts you vax pushers (and, your controllers) are.


36 posted on 05/05/2021 1:09:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: metmom
There’s no way to distinguish between who has been vaccinated and who has not.

In about a year or so, all we have to do is watch out for the walking dead "gene mutations"

:D

37 posted on 05/05/2021 1:10:26 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Salamander

The resident FVPs (fake “vax” pushers) would likely be a-okay with that, sadly :-(


38 posted on 05/05/2021 1:10:39 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

The “flu” didn’t scare me.

The vax shedders do.


39 posted on 05/05/2021 1:11:12 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Jane Long; Bulwyf

Welcome to Fear Republic.


40 posted on 05/05/2021 1:11:52 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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