Posted on 05/05/2021 7:56:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
So, today, I noticed this tweet about illegal immigrants.
It reminded me of something a celebrity said and was subsequently skewered in the media for it. Yet, based on the twitter comments I shared above, many Americans think the same way.
The people who tend to think this way are not the working-class or those who live below the poverty line. They see illegal immigrants as taking jobs away from U.S. workers, according to this 2017 Rasmussen poll.
It all made me wonder. The richer you are, the more you think illegal immigrants are here to handle menial jobs in pursuit of a better life. Likewise, the poorer you are, the more you you see them as a threat to your economic well-being. Which of the two arguments is correct? Well, there is an argument for both sides. Consider this 2018 quote from Iowa City Press-Citizen which is provably true and conventional wisdom. (I added links to the quote below for more context.)
Undocumented workers are used as slave labor in a slave economy. They have no enforceable rights, living conditions are often deplorable, employers can intimidate them without repercussion and force them to work in unsafe conditions. These workers cannot object if they are paid starvation wages– if they get paid– and face termination without cause. They have no protection from industrial predators.
Meanwhile, those who employ them know they are not citizens and also know they face no penalties for hiring them. Let me repeat: there is no incentive not to hire them. If employers were penalized adequately (or at all) these workers would not be here.
This is why in the United States there are over 11 million undocumented workers. California alone has more than 2 million farm laborers yet 1.5 million are undocumented.
So, yes, illegal immigrants are exploited in America. That is a given. Yet, the left would have me believe that they are a necessary workforce because Americans will not perform certain jobs. Is that true? No, its not. The Center for Immigration Studies has a different perspective based on scholarly research data. Here are some of their findings. They are as recent as 2018. I quote (with my emphasis added)…
If immigrants “do jobs that Americans won’t do,” we should be able to identify occupations in which the workers are nearly all foreign-born. However, among the 474 separate occupations defined by the Department of Commerce, we find only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations, and none completely dominated by immigrants (legal or illegal). Furthermore, in none of the 474 occupations do illegal immigrants constitute a majority of workers.
Notable findings:
To sum all that up. There are no jobs that Americans will not do.
Illegal immigrants perform jobs that some Americans think are menial but none of those jobs are done exclusively by illegal immigrants and neither are the workers in those roles majority illegal immigrants.
That said, why are we encouraging so many illegal migrants to America where they will be exploited? Perhaps, there is an ulterior motive? Just asking.
Ditto, prior to the massive influx of illegals after the 86 amnesty, Americans did all those jobs.
As a former men’s dorm toilet cleaner, i agree with the article. except now IT might have more visa workers from india. Also, i detest the misuse of the word liberal to describe avowed communists. Rush did it (only thing i didn’t agree with him on) and it undermines the true nature of these people.
There is no labor shortage nor are there any jobs Americans won’t willingly and effectively fill.
But not at sh!t wages.
Anyone expecting people to work for $15-$20 an hour with less than 5 weeks vacation and health care should just close up shop now and save the whining.
Anyone saying “But that’s a *starter* job, and not supposed to pay for a house, sending your kids to college and having a good life” is living in the 20th century.
After watching Americans sit on their asses collecting my tax dollars instead of going back to work, even with businesses practically begging them, offering higher wages, I don't give a crap anymore.
This nation desperately needs complete economic collapse and a culling of the lazy. Like the Great Depression generation, perhaps the survivors will develop an appreciation of the basic realities of life, and the hard work that is required to sustain it. The rest can die for all I care.
Get rid of the government gravy train for able bodied persons and suddenly there won’t be any jobs Americans won’t do.
That's it exactly. The government is the competition for wages. As long as they offer a financial alternative to doing real work, then there will be no incentive to "change jobs" and that may lead to labor shortages.
Same here. I’ve picked potatoes, filed documents, built videocassette boxes, delivered telephone books, babysat, swept factory floors. All of which helped me take my higher education opportunities very seriously.
hell they won’t even go back to the jobs they already have!
UE pays ~$60 more a week than $15hr
The only problem we have regarding employment right now is all the free money Biden is throwing around. Just a simple drive downtown shows that almost every business around here is hiring, but no one is applying. It has nothing to do with illegal or legal. Those illegals who aren’t gang bangers and drug runners are workhorses and would be a positive addition to the workforce IF THEY CAME HERE THE LEGAL WAY. Our biggest problem is the numbers of entry level workers who prefer to sit on their asses and collect money they did not earn, while the working stiffs are squeezed dry by the corrupt jackasses in DC.
“Only a small percentage of illegal aliens are working in agriculture.
They have taken over most of the construction, food processing and hospitality jobs.”
But most of the people working in agriculture are illegals.
The ironic thing about illegals is that they may end up being at the upper end of society in a generation or two. The reason I say that is because it takes a certain amount of initiative, risk taking, courage and intelligence to get into this country illegally. All qualities necessary for success.
I hope we don’t spoil them by making it too easy for them once they enter the country, which we are starting to do.
Having said that I’m not in favor of illegal immigration. I want to know and select who comes into this country, because with an open border you allow bad people to come in.
Only about 5% of all illegal aliens who are employed in this country work at jobs that have anything to do with agriculture.
There are lots of jobs that LIBERALS perhaps would not take, but real Americans can and have seized the opportunity to do each and every job that has to be done, sometimes disagreeable and tough, and do it for fair wages.
Even when the job seemed to have little prestige or glamor attached.
Americans will invent Machines to do the work they don’t want to do.
Take it a step further: if businesses have to raise the wages up to compete with uncle sugar, then it will mean that one in every three people competing for a position in the private sector can not be hired even if they need the slot. Their won’t be enough funds to replace the loss of balance at current levels and by the time they can hit a happy medium with price increases and shopper traffic losses due to raising prices, the second of three will be laid off due to HR expenses alone. And they are now down below what they had for employee numbers to begin with. (And quality service to keep the income coming)
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RINO Bush said the exact same thing.
I lived in SoCal..grew up there.
I saw with my own eyes....American's losing their jobs to illegal aliens,
Roofers, Carpenter's, Gardeners, Cement workers, Swimming pool cleaners,..etc...
THESE ARE JOB's that were stolen.
These are not jobs American's won't do....
I have a degree...and I've been shit on and puked on.
It's a great gig if you can get it.....
Overcrowding and substandard housing are no reason not to keep a dwelling clean and orderly. The landlord did not bring in the roaches, rats or bedbugs, or cause damage to the home.
—”They have taken over most of the construction, food processing and hospitality jobs.”
A nice new house is being built near me, a major source of entertainment around here. And often discussed.
I have noticed that ALL the younger workers appear to be Hispanic.
If you sweat on the job, the younger workers are all Hispanic.
Landscapers, tree trimmers, concrete work...
One of my neighbors says, on the larger jobs, they receive minority preference and Anglos cannot compete?
This is the lib take on illegal aliens: There are jobs that are so filthy, so vile, so revolting, that Americans won’t do them. But they are just right for little brown people, who are so dumb they’ll evendo them for the crap wages we force on them.
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