Covid-19: Delhi hospitals run out of oxygen supplies

BBC ^ | 04/22/2021 | Staff Writer

[BlackAdderess]

Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left. A number of people have died while waiting for oxygen, and more than 99% of all intensive care beds are full. India is in the grips of a second wave of Covid infections and on Thursday recorded the highest one-day tally of new cases anywhere in the world. The country has recorded close to 16 million confirmed infections.

[PGalt]

thanks, ‘note

[ransomnote]

Worldometers is showing a big increase in Israel’s daily case number today (315 vs. yesterday’s 135.) Are you aware of anything that would explain that?
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Sadly, yes. The vaccinated are becoming ill, as feared. The CDC calls it ‘breakthrough’ infection and spins it to mean, ‘Well we said 95% effective, not 100%’ but the CDC was lying about that too, and ADE (anti-body Dependent Enhancement) is a known risk for the vaccines. :(

But Israelis were tyrannized into getting the vaccine, there’s now ‘Vaccine apartheid’ - you can’t go to school, gather etc. unless you have proof you had it. :(

So reports that surfaced that 60% of new Covid cases in a region in the US is occurring among the vaccinated are likely true in some form everywhere, including Israel.

Prayers up for those in Israel, America and all nations under the boot of medical tyranny.

PS: “variant” is likely a new release from China to ‘punish’ India for proving medications were working.

[absalom01]

There are charlatans aplenty, that is for sure. Prominent among them are those who posit an artificial competition between therapeutics and prevention.

That’s dumb. We need both.

And where vaccinations are not available, which is most of the 3rd world, better a cheap, readily available therapeutic than nothing at all.

At this point, there have been three highly reputable meta-analyses of the effectiveness of IVM (Kory, Hill, and Lawrie) independently assessing the data. It’s a mere straw man to argue that none of these drugs is 100% effective against the China virus. None of those people have made that claim. The available data show that, in the case of IVM, there is anywhere from a 20% to 60% reduction in mortality.

Even at the low end, that’s a lot better than nothing, especially in a part of the world where even O2 isn’t available.

[bagster]

The fact of the matter is that India is on an upward acceleration velocity.

India is next door neighbors to China and lately has been having border skirmishes with them. They were allied with Trump America against China.

Is it possible that may have something to do with India's infection rate? Stick that in your ponder box, doc.

There are other things going on in the world besides your doctoring expertise, which is why all your kvetching is one dimensional and naive.

That's why people who spent their entire life in school and medical facilities shouldn't presume to understand or expound on the big picture.

Expand your thinking.
Q

[ransomnote]

“Basically, India is under continued biowarfare attack”

Scientist belive the real death number in India due to covid is in the millions, not 185k

Go to the Daily Mail and look at the article about cremations. There are whole outside parks turned into cremation centers.
Bodies are being burned in every open area around India

India is lying through their teeth.
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India is under sustained biowarfare attack. China and her allies can’t let the world see that drugs work on Covid-19 so they released a nastier variant, no doubt based on funding from the NIH.

[bagster]

And yet we have our own coterie of Freepers who will be right along to tell us that our medical system is embroiled in a conspiracy of big Pharma and physicians

I think this is the first time I've ever been in a 'coterie'. Cool.

who make $13,000 a diagnosis and $39,000 for a death and that we are holding back miracle cures to line our own pocket.

The individual physicians don't get paid, the hospitals do. This is well publicized. You should ask for your cut. Of course if you get paid by a hospital, you're already getting your cut.

You shouldn't distort things, doc. We smarts get it.

[ransomnote]

Here's a better post re rising infection rates.

Cases are rising among the vaccinated and declining among the unvaccinated, but you'll never get Faucists to admit that.

Clinicians at the link are reporting for their practice, 60% of new Covid-19 cases are vaccinated patients.

Bombshell: 60% of New Covid Patients Are Vaccinated
Pandemic Warroom ^ | April 19, 2021 | Elizabeth

Posted on 4/19/2021, 3:03:33 PM by Maudeen

ransomnote: There are plenty of accounts of vaccinated becoming ill.

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
Deconstructing Conventional ^ | April 5, 2021 | Christian Elliot

Posted on 4/11/2021, 11:20:47 AM by \/\/ayne

"#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED

• It's happening in Washington State

• It's happening in New York

• It's happening in Michigan

• It's happening in Hawaii

• It's happening in several other states too.

• It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.

In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now."

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ransomnote: Fauci and Co. keep changing back and forth between saying vaccination will prevent spread and warning you it won't prevent spread. Whatever they 'need' to say at the time, they say without proving it or remembering what they said last time.

Pfizer and Moderna stated in their filings that they have gaps in their data. Specifically, the vaccine companies said they have:

• No data on transmission of covid

• No data on preventing mortality from covid

• No data on duration of protection from covid

Pfizer/Biontech FDA application: Starting on Page 46 Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee December 10, 2020 Meeting Briefing Document- FDA 

Moderna: Starting on Page 48.  Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee December 17, 2020 Meeting Briefing Document - FDA_

Ransomnote: When interest in 'vaccines' was 'too low', Faucists started saying, "Well we're seeing evidence they DO prevent infection after all..." Rinse and repeat. 

Fauci and co., and their enablers, want medical slavery and they want it now!

[gas_dr]

Someone else leveled that accusation and finally walked it back

[bagster]

[Cathi]

Yes, I concur about the breakthrough cases situation. This is what I posted a few hrs. ago along with the latest study of two “breakthrough” vaccinated woman with full blown covid cases with strong vax response, high covid titres and a high viral load.

I wonder how many people realize what she (CDC Director) (and Fauci) really told you. They now know that the vax will not provide the hoped for level of efficacy against becoming infected with and/or transmission of covid.

So they are insisting on maintaining the restrictions they advised before there was a vax.

Dr. Risch: “The vaccination, because it only cuts transmission by 50 to 60% and not by 90%, it’s not that strong to shut off the infection so, yes it is adding to herd immunity but it’s not enough to bring it down fast and that’s the reason why Dr. Fauci is still espousing distancing and mask wearing and so on because he is trying to say we need more than just the 50 to 60% benefit in order to bring the infections down more quickly.”

Dr. Risch: Clinicians I talk to now say that over 50% of the covid patients they are seeing have been vaccinated.

CDC: “In the coming weeks, CDC will transition this surveillance activity to focus on identifying and investigating only those vaccine breakthrough infections that result in hospitalization or death. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance.”

[gas_dr]

Please point out where I have supported Fauci, and you give a lot of volume without a lot of response wo what is actually on the topic here. I never said FR posts that I dont like, I point our FR posts that are inaccurate. I have little emotional investment beside refuting bad evidence.

And the evidence is this. Ivermectin which I have said all along is at best a partial treatment was the savior in India. Certain Freepers strutted around stating India proved the point of the big Pharma conspiracy to keep “cheap cures” from being utilized in America. People have even gone as far to say but India is too big and IVermectin is not everywhere. But now that India is embroiled in a major crises, people are going to increasingly offer strange explanations for the simple — if Ivermectin were the be all and end all, we would not hav between a quarter and a third of a million cases in India a day and getting worse.

And there is really no way around that.

[cymbeline]

“This is horrible”

Welding oxygen would work fine. Someone prove me wrong.

[gas_dr]

Dr. Robert Glater: Medscape Emergency Medicine Publication today:

To your point, Nicole, if we look at the Israeli experience so far, that’s sort of a real-world experiment of what the Pfizer vaccine can do. Over 500,000 have been vaccinated with two doses. Only 544 people caught the virus 7 or more days after getting their second dose of the vaccine, so 93% percent effectiveness. There were no deaths and four severe cases among 500,000 or so vaccinated. There were 15 hospitalized and four did have severe illness. But again, no one died.

These are the real numbers as of today.

[grey_whiskers]

What is the geographic distribution in India?
(Rural areas likely aren’t using much oxygen out of tanks, right?)
And does anyone have any indication if this is a “mutant” strain?
...anyone heard a peep out of Wuhan, lately? As in, infections? Or did all their vulnerable die in the first wave?

[bagster]

Someone else leveled that accusation and finally walked it back.

Then that someone is weak and dumb.

Are you trying to tell me that hospitals DON'T get tax payer money for covid cases and deaths?

C'mon, man.

(first item on google)

Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count

(excerpt)

Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting.

*snip*

Jensen, April 8: I would remind him that anytime health care intersects with dollars it gets awkward. Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital, you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.

Its one thing to say nobody's fudging to get more money. I'll let you get away with saying that, even though its incredibly naive.

But you aren't allowed to say hospitals don't get more government money for treating (and you have to diagnose to treat for a specific thing) covid patients.

Facts is facts.

[bagster]

Please point out where I have supported Fauci.

Fauci - "Take the vax".

gas_dr - "Take the vax".

Next question.

[ransomnote]

These are the real numbers as of today.

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The numbers are only as good as the (corrupt) source who counts them and reports them to others. Then doctors, researchers have nothing else to report. That's why China and our other enemies reheased how to capture communications in 2017 and 2019. All the details are present in those two practice runs - how to control information reporting and public response.

The SPARS Pandemic of 2025-2028” from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Center for Health Security [my comments and link to PDF] (freerepublic.com)

[Cathi]

“...if we look at the Israeli experience so far,” “Over 500,000 have been vaccinated with two doses.” “These are the real numbers as of today.”

When was “today?” Israel has already fully vaxed 5 million, not 500,000.

This is the email about the Israeli study from a physician that I posted links to:

I’m not sure you saw this but, there was a gigantic study post EUA

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765

It shows that the vaccine has a minimal impact on disease. The studies read like something out of an ad agency touting “90% effectiveness”, etc.

The absolute benefit in risk is far less than 1%

There were 39 deaths DUE TO COVID ONLY in the non vaccinated group and 20 deaths due to COVID in the vaccinated group.

I had to go to the study appendix to get this information, it was buried there where one had to dig to get it.

The deaths number is on page 27

They didn’t put this information right into the study because the tiny numbers are so shocking.

For example the number of deaths FROM COVID ONLY in the vaccinated group was 0.0003% and the number of deaths in the unvaccinated group was 0.0006%

The overall reduction in risk for COVID ONLY DEATH was 0.0003%

Put another way, 29,800 people needed to be vaccinated to prevent one death from COVID during the study period. There were 596,000 people in each group.

What I am mainly emailing you about —

This study did not reveal the absolute mortality figures in each group, i.e. death from all causes. THEY ONLY COUNTED DEATHS “FROM COVID”

They had this data, but DID NOT PUBLISH IT. If this data was favorable, they WOULD have published it.

This fact means that it is almost certain that more people died of all causes in the vaccinated group.

Accepting the vaccine almost certainly increased the risk of death.

[mrsmith]

“HCQ and Ivermectin ...”

Seen a recommended at-home treatment schedule for Indians that couldn’t get medical care.

It only included budesonide and steroids. (I assume they’re OTC there).

[Mom MD]

I see your understanding of how to read death certificates is surpassed only by your understanding of statistics and medical literature