A new precedent has been set.
Very Proud?
And when this lieutenant gets in the face of his colonel and gives him a rash of attitude, will the Sergeant Major also be very proud?
Yet another reason why the military is not the best option for young people today.
Might as well go to school and be taught CRT and how to BLM.
Does anyone have a link to the whole video?
Nobody seems to mention the context. The reason he was stopped was because there was no license plate in the holder on the back of the car. There was a CLEARLY VISIBLE temporary license taped in the rear window, where it should be.
Of course, if some infringement had occurred by the driver and the car was stopped, then you obey the cops. I think that by the time the SHTF, the cop realized he’d screwed up. Instead of apologizing and saying, “I screwed up; you do have a license plate”, he doubled down on stupid.
The cop would’ve shot the guy in a heartbeat, and could have used the guy reaching to unlatch his seat belt as rationalization. “I thought he was going for a gun.”
What if two cops are screaming contradictory orders at you? Which one do you follow? Choose wisely now...they are answering your questions and they both are ready to shoot you.
What a bunch of BS!
Would you care to venture as to how many stupid, BUT LAWFUL orders that this officer has given or WILL give in his military career? I will hazard more then just a few. Yet he would expect those orders to be obeyed, and might even consider recommending a court martial or an Article 15 for a subordinate who did not obey them.
I spent 26 years on active duty and the National Guard, retiring as a Master Sergeant. I was also a State Police Officer. Even the very best of officers I served under, some of whom I love and respect ENORMOUSLY, occasionally gave ill-considered and dumb-ass orders. It goes with the territory of being a fallible human being.
If you could conduct a séance with George Patton, I am sure he would express his regret over having ordered the Hammelburg raid.
I am not saying that the police officers may not have been overbearing and utterly inappropriate as they gave conflicting orders. No matter, at the moment of confrontation, it was incumbent upon an army officer, who should understand the meaning of a lawful, if stupid order, to comply with them and sort out any wrongdoing afterward.
His behavior was just about as silly as any of the officers, PARTICULARLY when he told them that he did not have to get out of the car for a traffic violation when ordered.
If I was this dummy’s CO, I would haul him on the carpet and reprimand or sanction him as I remind him that the Punitive Articles of the UCMJ require a commissioned officer to publicly comport himself at all times in a manner consistent with the dignified behavior that is demanded of them. I see possible violations of Article 92, 133, and 134.
But in this age of the “woke” armed forces, he might just be given a Medal of Honor!!!!
In almost every state, there is a requirement to obey the lawful commands of a police officer. Instructing you to exit a motor vehicle may be inappropriate or stupid, you may even consider it as arbitrary, but it is not per se illegal or unlawful.
When I was a police officer, the State of Illinois had a specific criminal statute in ILCS Chapter 38, making it illegal for a citizen to resist even an unlawful arrest. Many states, to include VA have similar statutes. While I do not personally agree with the rationale behind such laws, the notion for them is that the courts will sort out the necessity of, and the legality behind, the arrest, thus minimizing the likelihood of injuries to the officer or the resisting subject of the illegal? arrest.
I am not surprised that this officer’s department decided to fire him, given the current political climate and the moral cowardice of police and political leadership. They probably violated some civil service or union contractual due process issues by doing so.
You just KNOW that the Democ-RAT bastid governor Klan Man hood Northam will demagogue the hell out of this incident for to exploit racial tensions for his perceived political gain.