Posted on 04/08/2021 7:19:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The trial of Derek Chauvin grinds on. Currently, the prosecution is still putting on its case, but it may want to stop doing so before the court is forced to dismiss the case altogether. As Andrew Branca, at Legal Insurrection, explained after the eighth day of the trial, “once again, the defense weaponizes prosecution ‘expert’ witness against the prosecution case.” But if you want the full flavor of the madness in Minneapolis, you must read Ann Coulter’s case summary.
A brief rundown here to orient you: George Floyd, a convicted violent felon, passed a fake $20 bill. When the police arrived, Floyd was clearly under the influence and complaining that he couldn’t breathe. The police tried to get him into the back of their car, at which point he went wild.
Concluding that Floyd was suffering from excited delirium (i.e., a probably drug overdose), Derek Chauvin restrained Floyd in textbook fashion, by placing him on his stomach with Chauvin’s knee across Floyd’s shoulder. The police also called 911 for a paramedic. While all this was going on a crowd gathered, filming what was happening and hurling angry, threatening imprecations at the police. Then Floyd died.
You know the rest: America caught on fire; Black Lives Matter got in the driver’s seat of the American political, social, and economic establishment; every white person who wasn’t bowing to the mob became a racist; Trump was driven from office; and we now have an administration dedicated to “equity,” which means enshrining racism into federal law and regulations, something that’s highly unconstitutional but our quisling Supreme Court probably won’t care.
Meanwhile, the coroner’s report established that Floyd didn’t die from suffocation, but from a massive Fentanyl overdose (on top of the other drugs in his system). Nevertheless, the BLM mob wanted blood.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Probably too scared to put a C of D
I read the full report now. Glad it’s available.
It does NOT say what the journalists said that it says...it absolutely 100% does NOT establish “that Floyd didn’t die from suffocation, but from a massive Fentanyl overdose (on top of the other drugs in his system”.
What it does is list a bunch of conditions that are present, indisputably.
Actually after reading it, as an amateur, of course...I was sort of left wondering, why did this guy die?
What would be helpful, but is NOT in the report, would be the data as to the (usually, often, sometimes) lethal dosage of Fentanyl for a person that size, and under duress.
I’d say that’s right.
I also think possibly...it is unclear. I don’t know much about coroner science. But to me, after reading it, I sort of felt unsatisfied (and honestly a little sad) and was left wondering why did he die?
Fentanyl, norfentanyl, and morphine, plus other things.
People have died from less than 1 ng, and 2ng is considered lethal without medical assistant in new users. Habitual users can tolerate more. Mixed cocktails make the lethal dosages even lower.
10-20ng is what anesthetists use to keep you completely out (with ventalation).
A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:
1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL
2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL
3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL
4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL
5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL;
Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL
6. Cotinine positive
7. Caffeine positive
B. Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol,
isopropanol, or acetone
C. Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids,
amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite
D. Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL
I looked over her site and only see a criticism of Donald Trump. https://anncoulter.com
The doc was put on the stand. He was asked if fentanyl can cause respiratory arrest. HE not only said “yes” but noted that the major reason Fentanyl is avoided is because of its ability to stop the lungs. It is too potent to reliably use, one tiny overdose and you die.
He said this on stand. Watch the video.
He also stated that the does in Floyd’s blood was well over the level to kill.
Now, it is possible that as a routine user he might have built up some sort of immunity. Heroin users can do that. But, what has also been approved as evidence is his recent, prior visit to the ER for a fentanyl OD. Same symptoms, same complaints: “can’t breathe!”. In that case, tho, he made it to the ER in time. In that earlier case, tho, he wasn’t in the midst of committing a crime and didn’t put up a fuss with a bunch of coppers.
Apparently, this guy can’t learn. He goes from bad to worse.
From memory, the cause of death was cardiac and pulmonary arrest complicated by resisting Police and the knee-neck hold.
USA death certificates actually instruct medical examiners NOT to list cardiac and pulmonary arrest without explicitly explaining what caused the arrest.
The Tox Screen shows a potentially fatal dose of fentanyl in Floyd's body.
Also, the M.E. did not preserve the stomach contents, which almost sounds like criminal negligence to me.
Floyd has a previous arrest where he swallowed his illegal drugs, but the judge ruled the Defense cannot introduce that evidence.
The Defense also found spit out drugs in the back seat of the patrol car, which has been in quarantine.
I read that a month ago, but have not heard it mentioned since.
I don’t need that beeyatch explaining anything to me. If found not guilty it will be burn baby burn again and this time I hope all the newly armed blacks will defend their territory from demselves!
“What I see there is a listing of conditions. Yes, we all know that stuff is bad. But that says nothing as such about the cause of death.”
Floyd died when his heart stopped beating.
ive seen the entire trial...that ONE defense lawyer is mauling the States case..its getting close to George Zimmerman territory....
that’s super helpful. thank you.
to Coulter’s point, the TRIAL is not going well.
But seems to me that illumination that is emerging in the trial is what establishes that he did from health plus drug cocktail (mostly cocktail).
That conclusion is not drawn from the coroner’s report, by itself, on the face of it. But the coroner himself, with the benefit of interrogation, seems to have stablished that conclusion.
Words matter, and I didn’t like the phrase the journalists used. Because if that were the case, there is NO WAY that a murder charge could be brought (well in a functioning criminal justice system, there I go again...assuming that we are talking about the world as it used to be).
It is “possible” that George Floyd was murdered....no matter how strung out on drugs he was. But for him to have been murdered, the accused must have intentionally acted in a way which was likely to result in real harm/death, and the action that the accused intentionally took must be the cause of death (sine qua non at least).
So theoretically ....George Floyd could’ve been murdered.
I do not see that the coroner’s report rules that out.
That said, it doesn’t give the DA any evidence that the accused also caused the decedent’s death. And apparently the cross x makes that possibility basically melt away to near nothing.
(But, like the OJ trial, we know how this will end and it has nothing to do with anything that I just wrote. Because we are in The Revolution).
yep....and they give a time for that.
the question as to whether the death was caused by something in particular is not precisely addressed in the report.
However....that Fentanyl level...wow, that looks suspicious, doesn’t it? And not just suspicious, but, often...fatal.
(And that’s what cross examination is for).
the defense attorney will die for this. you gotta admire people who really live for justice. incredible.
Massive Fentanyl overdose (on top of the other drugs in his system).
Special notice the those who made fun of the war on drugs and now so many damned states are pushing them.
If he were never stopped he would have been dead by the end of the day.
At least he felt no pain
I’d say that’s a near certain conclusion which can be drawn from the data presented....
No mystery Dude, they left it out on purpose because it weakened the Prosecution's case. Are you really confused as to the cause of death or just being contrarian?
I don’t like the conservative press misleading us with snappy soundbites.
The report does NOT establish that he died of Fentanyl. It just doesn’t.
What it does do is present a lot of data which must then be analyzed and discussed, back and forth, in context...and then conclusions can be drawn. This is what the trial is for. And that process appears to be working.
But the report by itself does not establish that. It just doesn’t and I don’t think American Thinker/Coulter should say that it does.
They could have said, “the coroner’s report contains data which suggests overdose as the cause of death”. It DOES do that.
The autopsy toxicology report had Floyd’s fentanyl level at 11 ng/mL. Six ng/mL is generally considered a lethal dose, with some people kicking off at 3 ng/mL.
sort of depends on the user, right? and how “experienced”?
I think (but do not know) that he was likely pretty experienced....
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