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SpaceX a handful of Starlink launches from blanketing Earth in broadband
CNet ^ | April 6, 2021 | Eric Mack

Posted on 04/07/2021 6:22:03 AM PDT by billorites

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To: lwd
"Modern day Howard Hughes-like visionary."

Except for the fingernails.

21 posted on 04/07/2021 7:58:42 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Shady
If I remember correctly SpaceX said the "design life" of the latest gen of Falcon boosters is 10 launches. I think they have one at 9 now. So the question of the day for techies is, for the 10th and "final" flight of that booster will they bother to expend the fuel (rocket, drone ship) and personnel time to recover it?

I'm kind of guessing the answer is yes for two reasons. One, they wouldn't want to be seen as contributing to pollution both in the air from what might burn up and in the ocean for what might not. Two, their engineers will no-doubt want to take it apart and examine it for wear and tear. I remember talking to a couple of their engineers a few months before they successfully recovered their first booster. They were not going to re-fly that one, but rather tear it down to look for what was close to failure after a flight.

I imagine something similar will happen after they get one that has completed it's entire design life. They'll take a look and see what components are maybe over-designed, or possibly evaluate if it is safe to up the lifetime to 11 or 12 launches...

Speaking of design life, and getting back to Starlink... What is the design life of the little sats? I seem to remember it is measured in a few months for the initial set, and something like a year or two for the current gen? That would mean SpaceX would have to maintain a fairly consistent pace of launches to replace sats going out of service or expand coverage & bandwidth.

22 posted on 04/07/2021 8:03:29 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: shotgun; thirst4truth

We got our Starlink dish up and running about 3 weeks ago.

We had microwave internet before and the big problem was slow speed and frequent packet loss which lead to very unreliable downloads of larger files, like system updates.

Starlink is not perfect, but it is worth the monthly cost for sure. The old internet was $80 for an advertised 12 Mbps which was an actual 8. Every time I test Starlink it is 40 to 150 Mbps and latency is 40-80 ms. All for $100/month.

To me, the $500 initial cost was worth it.


23 posted on 04/07/2021 8:41:04 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: ScubaDiver

Howard Hughes?


24 posted on 04/07/2021 9:11:52 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Yes. That’s probably the best analog.

Interestingly, with reputations for dating beautiful starlets and speaking their minds, their personal lives aren’t all that dissimilar either.


25 posted on 04/07/2021 9:15:36 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: CurlyDave

What’s the data cap, if you don’t mind me asking?


26 posted on 04/07/2021 9:16:44 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Red Badger

And changed the world.


27 posted on 04/07/2021 9:20:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Molon Labe')
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To: billorites

Looking forward to this. I would even be happy to pay more to know I am not supporting Verizon. I don’t have TV, but it is impossible to get internet only. So I am paying for stupid local TV that I don’t watch on their “internet only” package.


28 posted on 04/07/2021 9:23:48 AM PDT by FalloutShelterGirl (Cool! I found my original screen name!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yes, but for better or worse is debatable................


29 posted on 04/07/2021 9:27:29 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Red Badger

We would still have cars had Ford been a jew.


30 posted on 04/07/2021 11:22:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: thirst4truth

Same here, but I haven’t received anything yet. Signed up and paid the $99 at the end of February.


31 posted on 04/07/2021 1:06:29 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Only a moronic, suicidal group would try a Great Purge 2021 on an armed American. We're ready!)
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To: ScubaDiver
What’s the data cap, if you don’t mind me asking?

At this time, there is no data cap.

I have read rumors of a future intent to institute a data cap, but they are unconfirmed internet ramblings at this point.

Maybe Elon knows, but he isn't telling. And maybe he doesn't know...

32 posted on 04/07/2021 11:31:50 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

All things considered, that’s a pretty competitive price for a lot of markets, if the download speeds really are as advertised. Where I live, it wouldn’t be a good deal at all. But, we have a reasonable number of broadband service providers available to us. I’ve got some family that live in suburban OH and they pay an astronomical price (close to $200/mo)for only 100 Mbps.


33 posted on 04/08/2021 5:45:35 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Rio

I clicked on the map and saw some stats........

The Antenna required has a five foot diameter.


34 posted on 04/08/2021 5:55:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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...The Antenna required has a five foot diameter...

This is simply not true. All the antennae are the same and are about 18" in diameter. The active face is flat and the back is dished. That is the antenna I am using right now to send this post.

They are covered with a matte white material which looks sort of like a swimming pool liner.

I would not ever call it an attractive device, but as antennae go it is not as obtrusive as many.

35 posted on 04/08/2021 8:52:21 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

I feel better with your first hand account. I clicked on the map and here’s what I got

cy City, TN

* map link
Antenna count: 8
Antenna diameter: 5 feet
Antenna manufacturer: SpaceX
Uplink: 2.1 GHz total (27.5-29.1, 29.5-30 GHz)
Downlink: 1.3 GHz total (17.8-18.6, 18.8-19.3 GHz)
Date filed: 2020-09-01
https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-LIC-20200903-


36 posted on 04/08/2021 10:21:00 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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...I feel better with your first hand account. I clicked on the map and here’s what I got...

I think what you found is the ground station where the rest of the internet exchanges information with the satellites.

This is going to be a little antenna farm with multiple antennae communicating with multiple satellites at the same time. Probably in a light industrial area. Chain link fence around it, a small building housing electronics, and some parking for techs. The one you linked to has 8 dishes to uplink to the satellites. And a very fast fiber optic connection to the internet.

While these ground stations are not top secret, they are a vulnerable point in the system and their addresses or exact locations are closely held to prevent attacks or just plain old vandalism.

Right now the system works so there is only one satellite between your home dish and the rest of the internet. This is OK for land areas where a ground station every few hundred miles is feasible. Over the ocean, or in very remote areas, the satellites will eventually learn to relay signals between each other. this is a far more complicated situation and will take time to develop.

37 posted on 04/09/2021 12:51:02 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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From early April.

OTOH, the SN15 launch has been scrubbed again. Sounds like they’re within an nth of gettin’ it done, and the boss doesn’t want any more RUDs and surprises.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sn15


38 posted on 05/04/2021 9:57:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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