Posted on 03/06/2021 6:05:38 AM PST by Dr. Franklin
1. The Constitutional provisions related to the role of Congress in a presidential election specifically apply only in cases where no candidate has a received a majority of the electoral votes.
2. The applicable Federal statute — if it is even constitutional at all — doesn’t empower Congress to “examine” presidential elections in any effective way. There simply isn’t enough time between January 6th and January 20th to do any “examination” that’s worth a damn.
3. It seems absurd on its face for anyone to believe that the Federal statute in question would allow Congress to uphold any objection to electoral votes from states where there was no competing slate of electors certified and no formal objection from any person or government body that had the authority to act on the state’s behalf.
I put a tranche you, because you’re mine.
“Trump’s power IS cultic in nature.”
You should stick to your “I’m smarter than Trump!” spiel.
It’s blatantly silly but not as offensive.
2. The applicable Federal statute — if it is even constitutional at all — doesn’t empower Congress to “examine” presidential elections in any effective way. Thank you for your opinion that the statute is likely "fundamentally flawed" or at least ineffective. Perhaps you know something the Congress has missed for the past 70 years?
3. It seems absurd on its face for anyone to believe that the Federal statute in question would allow Congress to uphold any objection to electoral votes from states...
And yet Congress has been invited to a Joint Session with each presidential election for that very purpose: considering and debating the acceptability of each state's certificates of electoral votes.
It is serious U.S. History high-school students who would find your views absurd.
“Trump appears to have a psychological need for such adulation. “
As I told the other guy... stick to your “I’m smarter than Trump!” spiel.
But, in sum: politics ain’t so simple.
Glad to have Trump at the helm.
If you and all of the other GOPee perpetual suckers want to vote for Trump and his “tranche” of GOPee sure-to-be quisling traitors then go right ahead! It doesn’t really matter to you at all what the historical record shows over the past fifty odd years of GOPee duplicity and treachery anyway, you all know better that this time, fer sher, Trump and the GOPee will save the world. Really! This time fer sher!
If you and all of the other GOPee perpetual suckers want to vote for Trump and his “tranche” of GOPee sure-to-be quisling traitors then go right ahead! It doesn’t really matter to you at all what the historical record shows over the past fifty odd years of GOPee duplicity and treachery anyway, you all know better that this time, fer sher, Trump and the GOPee will save the world. Really! This time fer sher! GOPee Delenda Est!
“Trump appears to have a psychological need for such adulation. “
Your view.
And such gullibility permeates all you say.
There’s no reason to reason with someone who doesn’t reason.
In fact, the whole thing was more or less a “I was robbed” pep rally: no real effort was made to explain to the crowd, to the Senators who would begin voting in an hour, to the Americans watching at home, to the world that counts on America to be the leader of free, fair, and transparent elections, what went wrong with the November 2020 election, and why we believed there were deep irregularities demanding investigation. No significant effort at all.
Instead, it was a pep rally. That’s it. An “I was robbed” Trump pep rally.
The moment we could make a break from the front, Flynn and I and everyone with us made a dash for the exit. Flynn could barely contain his fury as we shared impressions: this had been the one last chance to explain the situation to the whole world, and instead Trump had used it as a pep rally. “He just does not get it,” we repeated to each other as we stormed through the crowd back towards the hotel. “He does not get that it is not about him. He put on a [bleep]ing pep rally. He does not understand that this is not about him,” we repeated over and over in anger and despair. In 15 minutes we were back at the hotel, both packing our bags, both sick to our stomachs, and did not leave to join the throngs moving towards the Capitol.
>>> You should stick to your “I’m smarter than Trump!” spiel.
It’s blatantly silly but not as offensive.
If I were half as smart as Trump, I wouldn’t be cleaning carpets for a living right now.
However, your being offended at what I said illustrates my point pretty well I think.
btw... I include myself in a “cultic” trust in Trump that right now is wavering quite a bit... So I can understand you being offended.
Lol, Yeah because the liberaltarian party is surely the answer? Your ShareBlue slip is showing.
Folks who come on here and only attack the GOP without saying anything about Democrats are doing Soros’ bidding.
I don’t see any way one can have a “cultic” trust in him.
He has earned the respect and appreciation of our intellects.
What he accomplished to become the most powerful man in the most powerful nation in the history of the world is a phenomenon of hard work and ability. Not luck.
That our Founders put obstacles in his way is a great tribute to them, and his obedience to them evidence of a humble faithfulness. As was his attention to the promises he made.
And that’s all from reasoned judgement.
Now that he is freed of the constraints our Founders put upon the Presidency I expect him to have even more success at his project to save the Republican Party.
The Dems/RINOs have no effective counter to him now.
But “Man proposes but God disposes” of course...
>>> The inability for certain supporters to acknowledge that Trump made at least one error as president seems to validate your argument. Refusing to acknowledge that a leader can make mistakes is something cult like.
Thank you... I appreciate your backing me on this.
I would like to add though, that the cultic draw we have towards him is not an accusation of narcissism on Trump’s part. I actually find him to be quite humble. You would certainly have to be in order to endure the onslaught he has gone through the last 4 years... there is no way I could have endured it and kept my cool.
No... my concern is OUR NATURAL REACTION to Trump, simply because he has challenged the establishment like no one ever has, and won. Who would not ascribe to him god-like characteristics which consistently made the liberal’s heads explode in almost concert fashion?
Yeah... I would be back on the Trump train full bore in a New York Second if I were to hear that Biden, Obama, Hillary, McConnel... on down the line were in custody for treason, and new elections were scheduled before year’s end.
It was FAR easier for me to believe that would happen, rather than to believe that SCOTUS would not even HEAR evidence on a vote of 6-3.... leaving us with just the military who so far don’t even seem to be upset that the dems are feeding our troops raw meat with metal shavings in them as they protect the capital. Despite all of that, I still believed that Trump had a plan....
BUT... I cannot follow him if his “plan” is to re-engage in a corrupt system where there is no justice. His alignment with big pharma causes me to question his real priorities OR his real understanding of who really runs this world and the times we live in.
AND... despite the corruption and implosion of all 3 branches of federal government, I then see GOP traitors like McConnel and Graham seemingly hop onto the Trump train like nothing ever happened. YouTube deletes all copies of Trump’s CPAC speech, and here we are saying GO TRUMP!... Yay... 2024! We’ll show em!
Makes me mad.
Makes me wonder if we were simply played this entire 4 years.
When did he ever “drain the swamp”? Ahh.. it was all supposed to happen in round 2! After the election he was all set up for to drain the swamp after we “Catch them all”
What we are witnessing right now is NOT Trump’s plan....
We are not witnessing the Deep State’s plan either....
No... I think we are witnessing God’s plan. and I don’t think He wants to share the glory with Trump or anybody else for that matter.
>>> I don’t see any way one can have a “cultic” trust in him.
“cultic” can easily be confused with “occultic” they are not the same thing. I wish there were a better word for me to use. “Charismatic” fails to describe it... because it’s more about how WE react to him than it is about who he is or what he has done. He has often been called a 5D chess player BY US... and while that remains to be proven one way or another, that ability we project upon him is a perfect example of what I’m talking about.
>>> What he accomplished to become the most powerful man in the most powerful nation in the history of the world is a phenomenon of hard work and ability.
Every good thing he did as president will now be undone in a very short matter of weeks or months, simply because he failed to do the most important thing... which was to drain the swamp. Again, I do not blame him. I blame us. The GOP is the reason our system failed... not the democrats.
But here we are again... “Better luck next time!... wait for 2022... wait for 2024!” Bah!
Heads better roll over this, or ours will. It’s that simple.
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