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Trial Next Week: Will Jury Find George Floyd Died of Drug Overdose, Not From an Approved Minneapolis Police Procedure?
GP ^ | Febuary 2,2021 | By Larry Johnson

Posted on 03/02/2021 5:48:21 PM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Eagles6

No it’s not.


41 posted on 03/02/2021 7:16:12 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP

Agreed. The people endorsing this action have never experienced it or they’d think differently about it.


42 posted on 03/02/2021 7:21:38 PM PST by MercyFlush (Senator Joseph McCarthy was right. )
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To: corkoman

These levels are observations of course because obviously you can’t do a prospective study here.

If Floyd was a long term user, he could develop tolerance so the lethal dose could be higher. Some of the other drugs such as Methamphetamine could have a stimulating effect and partly negate the sedation and respiratory depression.

I wonder if Floyd just swallowed all his pills just before he saw the cops coming for him.


43 posted on 03/02/2021 7:32:42 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: DesertRhino

They were worried that he wasn’t breathing.


44 posted on 03/02/2021 7:34:19 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: Hojczyk; TakebackGOP
I bet police are trained in another "regulation" apparatus, the Billy club, that is used successfully countless times a day in America.

The existence of the billy club and attendant instructions doesn't negate the potential for an incompetent police officer to use the billy club incorrectly, with grevious outcomes.

And, GP, thanks for the link...because that Manual also says:

Physical force shall not be used against individuals in restraints, except as objectively reasonable to prevent their escape or prevent imminent bodily injury to the individual, the officer, or another person. In these situations, only the amount of force necessary to control the situation shall be used. Force used against a restrained or handcuffed individual shall be viewed with increased scrutiny in determining reasonableness.

45 posted on 03/02/2021 8:24:38 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Hojczyk

Since that was the autopsy result, and no sign of brusing on the neck, uhhh yeah! They have the video before hhe was on the ground in the back of a police car saying he couldn’t breathe. Fent O.D.


46 posted on 03/02/2021 8:33:16 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity)
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To: Hojczyk
Chauvin is not a big guy.

From memory, his booking paper work said he weighed around 165 pounds.

Floyd, the dead guy, weighed like 50 pounds more than Chauvin.

Floyd was a former scholarship basketball player, and he clearly still had a large, solid, upper body and neck.

Regardless, I am still expecting a guilty verdict for Chauvin.

It will require extraordinary courage for any juror to vote Not Guilty.

47 posted on 03/02/2021 11:34:48 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Hojczyk

One other note...

For some reason, the Medical Examiner did not examine the stomach for drugs.

The M.E. noted that the stomach contained no solids and just described a dark colored liquid.

In situations like this, it is not uncommon for people to eat illegal drugs.

The fact that the M.E. did not drug screen the stomach seems like inexcusable negligence to my eye.


48 posted on 03/02/2021 11:46:10 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Hojczyk

I can tell you what happens to an fbi sniper who shoots an unarmed woman in the back while she’s holding a baby! He gets a medal and a pension, that we have to pay. Don’t you think for an instant that they won’t do the same to you. I’m wondering... what does anyone think about the odds that whitey bulger’s fbi stooge will be set free (given that his parole date is this year)? If you’re betting against it, I’m willing to give you odds.


49 posted on 03/02/2021 11:57:59 PM PST by The Right Edge (Staunch Trump Supporter AND PROUD to be!)
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To: TakebackGOP
Re: "I'm still against him putting his knee on the back of his neck."

It is not on the back of his neck.

Floyd was on his stomach, hands cuffed, head and face rotated 90 degrees to the right - exactly what the Police Manual says to do.

Try it yourself at home on the floor.

No soft neck tissue is exposed at all - only neck and shoulder muscles take the weight of the knee.

50 posted on 03/03/2021 12:00:43 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: The Right Edge

Was the FBI stooge convicted in state or federal court?

In federal prison, you serve the whole sentence, no early release for good behavior.


51 posted on 03/03/2021 12:04:52 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Hojczyk

Do you people REALLY believe in a “fair day in court”? FOOLS! They use the cheapest garb, a black robe that empowers them to decide for evermore. Bullshi... Each and every one of these black robed posers is just an actor on a stage


52 posted on 03/03/2021 12:11:26 AM PST by The Right Edge (Staunch Trump Supporter AND PROUD to be!)
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Effin riots are justified no matter the decision /S


53 posted on 03/03/2021 12:14:46 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: zeestephen

The side of his neck was against the ground. I don’t want the police to do be able to do that.


54 posted on 03/03/2021 12:22:29 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP
Last time I checked, human beings have two sides.

One side of his neck was on the ground, the other side was easily supporting the knee pressure.

In any event, here is the problem...

The knee-neck hold has been completely lawful for decades in hundreds of Police jurisdictions...

You do not like it and want it banned?

Fine.

But, what does that have to do with this case?

55 posted on 03/03/2021 12:34:20 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: DesertRhino

What may happen is a fear driven verdict of guilty which will be overturned by a higher court.


56 posted on 03/03/2021 1:16:12 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: DesertRhino

Thank you. Yes the officer was in the middle of a near riot and couldnt reasonably keep his eye on floyd without endangering himself. The crowd is more to blame than the officer.


57 posted on 03/03/2021 1:27:27 AM PST by Ikeon (I beleive in paying a living wage, I'll pay you $1000 / bale of my cotton you picked)
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To: Hojczyk

WHAT does the AUTOPSY SAY??/ FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!


58 posted on 03/03/2021 3:25:40 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: zeestephen

The people around thought he couldn’t breathe, and he was saying he couldn’t breathe. I don’t want the police to be able to do that.


59 posted on 03/03/2021 12:21:51 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP
"I can't breath" is also a lawsuit strategy used every day by dozens of inmates and arrested persons.

If Floyd had said: "I just swallowed a lethal dose of fentanyl, and I can't breath," the Police response would have been much different.

60 posted on 03/03/2021 2:05:33 PM PST by zeestephen
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