Posted on 02/28/2021 2:43:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind
"Unnecessary"? No, forming a new Trump party would be totally counter-productive, split Republicans and elect many more Democrats.
So who would want to elect more Democrats?
Only total freakin a**holes like our own Mr. K.
Deal with that!
Ipse Dixit? Leaving the GOP that has proved useless for decades is a bad idea because... you say so?
You are too stupid to do elementary math. 75 million Trump supporters would relegate the existing GOP party to less than third party status, which is what they deserve
Useless Idiots like you, who want to keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results, are why the GOP has become nothing more than democrat-lite.
And your snarky replies that contain no information and
add nothing useful to promote your point make you not only a stupid useless idiot but a rude stupid useless idiot.
No, and you're not listening, so pay attention this time and I'll say it again: splitting apart Republicans would only serve to elect more Democrats, is that what you want?
Mr. K: "You are too stupid to do elementary math.
75 million Trump supporters would relegate the existing GOP party to less than third party status, which is what they deserve"
Your math skills seem to be lacking, so I'll explain it again: if you split apart those 75 million voters, the result will be a Democrat landslide.
Is that what you want?
Mr. K: "Useless Idiots like you, who want to keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results, are why the GOP has become nothing more than democrat-lite."
And yet President Trump lead the most conservative administration in my lifetime, achieving 90%+ support among Republicans and a 95% vote against the last fake-impeachment in Congress.
Republicans admire Trump and will follow his leadership.
But 90% would not follow him to a new party, and the result would be election of many more Democrats.
Is that what you want?
Mr. K: "And your my snarky replies that contain no information and add nothing useful to promote your my point make you me not only a stupid useless idiot but a rude stupid useless idiot."
There fixed it for you, FRiend.
"rude stupid useless idiot" perfectly describes your posts here.
Yes, you're welcome, no problem, any time...
Stooges gonna stooge. Keep voting the way your Uniparty (R) masters tell you. For God’s sake, don’t think for yourself. You are more the problem than the treacherous Uniparty (R) Judases. You are the useful idiot who allows them to get away with it and then you come back for more. Thanks!
Hey stupid you’re missing the point. But you’re too stupid to continue arguing with.
Let’s try simple math. There are currently 80 million registered in the GOP. Trump got 75 million votes.
If they all joined a new party how many would that leave in the GOP? Here’s some help 80-75 is...?
You have made no logical additional arguments except to repeat that a new party would split the GOP and elect Democrats.
My point is that was true in the past but is no longer true with Trump faithful followers, and the GOP proving itself to be useless rinos.
Is that not a valid point? Or worthy of consideration?
You’re originally comment of “no it’s not, deal with it” Was rude, snarky, and not worthy in a place that supposed to have intelligent discourse.
So bite my ass, millennial a**hole... You’re typical of your generation
Splitting the Republican vote so Democrats win every election is what you're here for, FRiend.
Stupid is as stupid says.
Mr. K: "Let’s try simple math.
There are currently 80 million registered in the GOP.
Trump got 75 million votes.
If they all joined a new party how many would that leave in the GOP?
Here’s some help 80-75 is...?"
Let me help you out here.
There's a perfect historical analogy, 108 years ago, when a very popular Republican president from New York didn't like the Republican establishment and so ran against it.
He called his party the "Bull Moose", split Republicans and got Southern Democrat Woodrow Wilson elected president, along with Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress.
In 1912 Teddy Roosevelt got about 55% of the Republican vote and if combined with Taft's votes Republicans would have easily defeated Democrat Wilson.
So you think Donald Trump is more popular among Republican voters than Teddy Roosevelt was?
Maybe, but why split Republicans when he can still run as the Republican leader -- that would be stupid.
Mr. K: "You have made no logical additional arguments except to repeat that a new party would split the GOP and elect Democrats.
My point is that was true in the past but is no longer true with Trump faithful followers, and the GOP proving itself to be useless rinos."
It's a simple fact: splitting Republicans will elect more Democrats, period, regardless of how much hand-waving you do.
If you fantasize that Republican voters today are more loyal to Trump than they were in 1912 to Teddy Roosevelt, that is an unproved hypothesis, which will never need to be proved if Trump leads Republicans.
Mr. K: "Is that not a valid point? Or worthy of consideration?"
If you listened to Trump's recent CPAC speech, early in it he announced that he will remain Republican, and cited exactly my reason for not going third party -- no good can come from splitting Republican votes.
Deal with that, FRiend.
Mr. K: "So bite my ass, millennial a**hole... You’re typical of your generation"
My millennial children might take offense at your words, but would more likely just laugh them off.
When they pound on your door in the middle of the night to take you away for being a VDE you’ll still be stooging for the Uniparty (R). You’ve completely lost you’re First Amendment rights, the second will be gone soon. The economy is being destroyed as we once again become a vassal state of China. This is the direct result of actions you support with your Uniparty. A Trump backed MAGA Party would have hit the ground as the second party. That’s history now. Everything Trump did was done through executive action because your Uniparty refused 99% of the time to support MAGA. All of what Trump did, 100% of it (after the tax cut is repealed) is gone already. Glad to hear you love living in a one party police state. Unfortunately, the useful idiot wing of the Uniparty is responsible for imposing a police upon my grandchildren as well. Thanks! “If we can only take the house in ‘22 we can kill Obamacare and Huzzah!” You’re in good company, Trump never learned either. With GOP guidance and support from people like you MAGA is being turned into Uniparty III.
hardspunned: "When they pound on your door in the middle of the night to take you away for being a VDE you’ll still be stooging for the Uniparty (R)."
VDE?
Nobody's coming after me, or you, unless you go berserk & start hurting your neighbors, FRiend.
hardspunned: "You’ve completely lost you’re First Amendment rights, the second will be gone soon."
You know, many years ago I did once get carried away and posted some bad words on Free Republic, for which the monitors deleted my post.
So I haven't done that since.
Turns out I can say pretty much anything I want here, so long as I keep it reasonably polite.
You should try that.
hardspunned: "The economy is being destroyed as we once again become a vassal state of China."
Sure, under Democrats everything gets worse.
Under Republicans like Donald Trump, things get better.
hardspunned: "This is the direct result of actions you support with your Uniparty."
Funny, but I never saw a "Uniparty" on any ballot I voted.
Maybe you were voting in a different country?
hardspunned: "A Trump backed MAGA Party would have hit the ground as the second party.
That’s history now. "
No, FRiend, it's not "history", it's just your wildest fantasy, nothing more.
Here's the truth: we already have a Tea Party which picks and supports conservative Republican primary candidates, and they will soon be joined by Trump supporters in critical battleground districts.
In his CPAC speech last week, Trump gave us his list of Republican bad-actors who should be removed.
They were the Rs who voted for fake impeachment:
hardspunned: "Everything Trump did was done through executive action because your Uniparty refused 99% of the time to support MAGA."
That's total nonsense, however, Democrat majorities in both Houses will now let the Democrat president change whichever laws he doesn't like.
100% of Republicans voted against the latest fake-Covid bill.
hardspunned: "All of what Trump did, 100% of it (after the tax cut is repealed) is gone already. "
The good news is it will all be restored after Republican victories in 2022 & 2024.
hardspunned: "Glad to hear you love living in a one party police state."
That's a lie, but the truth is that when Democrats rule our Free Republic, it becomes decidedly less free.
That's why I expect big changes in 2022 & 2024.
hardspunned: "Unfortunately, the useful idiot wing of the Uniparty is responsible for imposing a police upon my grandchildren as well. Thanks! “"
Another lie!
hardspunned: "“If we can only take the house in ‘22 we can kill Obamacare and Huzzah!”
You’re in good company, Trump never learned either.
With GOP guidance and support from people like you MAGA is being turned into Uniparty III."
I am 100% certain that Donald Trump is vastly more intelligent than you are, sir, and has learned whichever lessons are truly needed.
He was not impeached (twice!!) for being the leader of some mythical "Uniparty" I, II or III.
Under Trump's leadership Republicans will remain in staunch opposition to Democrat insanities, regardless of how much berserker sniping you do from the sidelines, FRiend.
Sad, just sad. The most useful of idiots.
Fixed it for you.
You're welcome.
A full two years later now - so when is this "shock" coming?
I think we’ll all find out about the same time. 😏
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