Posted on 01/14/2021 11:54:31 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
The senate plans to try Trump as a private citizen. Is this even legal/Constitutional? The expressed purpose of an impeachment trial is to remove a government functionary from office. If the senate trial is held after Trump leaves office, what would be the point???
You nailed it. It’s just political grandstanding - basically, a political show trial.
How about some examples of stuff Pelosi says that DO make sense. LOL
They are also seeking to remove his pension, office costs and Secret Service detail.
Purely vindictive.
But these democrats are showing their mental disease so of course it’s full steam ahead.
“It would be an unlawful Bill of Attainder. (A legislative trial.) Prohibited by the Constitution.”
Using transitive logic, exactly. It also means a political party controlling the Senate and House could ‘impeach’ a candidate and prevent them from running for office.
“But, the Framers did not envision 21st Century Democrats.”
They did. It is why they gave us the 2nd Amendment. Tyranny comes in all shapes and sizes.
As has been answered many times, it would be unconstitutional. The reason they will do it anyway is to keep the narrative alive and try to prevent him from running for office again.
Excellent point.
Well, they did have a fed judge that wanted to continue the trial and sentencing after the DOJ dropped charges (Flynn), so there is precedent for beating dead horses.
Likewise! 😉
Well put. Thanks.
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LOL!
Whatever the Democrats decide they want to do was formally made legal when SCOTUS gave neither President Trump, nor Texas and several states standing in the suit against PA.
U.S. Grant’s Attorney General was impeached after resigning, so the precedent is there. And there’s more than removal from office involved—there’s also the loss of the pension, Secret Service protection, some other money to run an office, and the bar against holding public office in the future, so not all the punishments of impeachment are made moot by leaving office.
Numerous experts on Constitutional law agree its illegal and Unconstitutional.
Luttig, Wallner, Dershowitz among a few.
But the vote barring Trump from seeking public office again would have to follow a conviction, which isn’t even remotely likely, rendering the whole thing utterly nonsensical.
Wanna bet? Roberts is more likely to simply say "The Constitution requires me to preside at impeachment trials in the senate. This is an impeachment trial. Therefore I will preside."
"To constitute Tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court"
In, other words, to create federal courts. Libs could interpret it broadly to create witchhunt tribunals for a specific controversies.
Trump isn’t on the ballot in 2022. A lot of mainline GOPe are. Roberts might just find his spine given that. Who knows.
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