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A Nursing Home had Zero Coronavirus Deaths. Then, It Vaccinates Residents for Coronavirus and the Deaths Begin.
Ron Paul Institute ^ | 01/10/2021 | Adam Dick

Posted on 01/12/2021 10:52:04 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski

Things seem to be working backwards at The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York. Vaccinating people is supposed to reduce or end coronavirus deaths. Right? But, at The Commons, such deaths are reported to have occurred only after residents began receiving coronavirus vaccinations.

James T. Mulder wrote Saturday at syracuse.com that until December 29 there had been no coronavirus deaths at The Commons. December 29, when deaths of residents with coronavirus began occurring at The Commons, is also, Mulder’s article discloses, seven days days after the nursing home began giving coronavirus vaccinations to residents, with 80 percent of residents so far having been vaccinated.

Over a period of less than two weeks since December 29, Mulder relates that 24 coronavirus-infected residents at the 300-bed nursing home have died.

Is the timing just a strange coincidence?

Read Mulder’s article here.

This is the penultimate paragraph of Mulder’s article, where vaccinations at The Commons is mentioned:

The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: antivaxxers; bs; chinavirus; chinavirusmortality; chinavirusoutbreak; chinavirusvaccine; coronavirus; covid19; deaths; deepstate; democrats; nursinghome; populationcontrol; posterisnuts; tinfoilhatalert; vaccinations; vaccine
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To: Jan_Sobieski

what are they dying from?


21 posted on 01/12/2021 11:07:18 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: null and void

Someone who was infected came in and infected others?

I mean, that was the reason for every other spike in nursing home deaths. I don’t know why this would be different. Or why these residents would all suddenly drop dead of a vaccine that 29 million other people got safely.


22 posted on 01/12/2021 11:07:29 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: nevergore

Could be anything really.

Just a good guess here.......improper handling of the vaccine.

Pfizer needs to store at sub zero temps unless it’s going to be used within 24 hours. Otherwise the vaccine will be spoiled.

If this is the case, whoever thought of the wonderful idea of giving nursing home staff such a sensitive vaccine is an idiot.

Typically those places are plagued by treatment/medication errors, under paid, under trained staffed.


23 posted on 01/12/2021 11:07:35 AM PST by David Chase
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To: Dubya-M-Dees; Jan_Sobieski
I just detest sensationalist reporting and brainless people who don’t think critically puking it out all over the place.

Amen, Brutha.

24 posted on 01/12/2021 11:09:54 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: nikos1121

Rona!


25 posted on 01/12/2021 11:09:58 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you won’t get the virus- it just means that it will be less severe from what i understand- could be that the nursing home didn’t have a wave go through the facility before getting the vaccines, but did have one after, some folks may have gotten the virus in the early stages of the vaccine, before it took effect possibly?


26 posted on 01/12/2021 11:11:37 AM PST by Bob434
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Exactly, correlation DOES NOT = causation.


27 posted on 01/12/2021 11:12:03 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: nevergore

possibility 4 - a covid outbreak was already underway when vaccines were administered


28 posted on 01/12/2021 11:14:00 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Bookmark


29 posted on 01/12/2021 11:14:10 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: traderrob6

Bttt


30 posted on 01/12/2021 11:14:18 AM PST by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Thank you for mentoring me on causation. Refreshing. The point of my post is that Coronavirus deaths AFTER the vaccine force one of a few conclusions:

A. Covid Vaccine does not work
B. Patients already had Covid Before they received shot
C. The vaccine made them more vulnerable
D. Vaccine does not work for 70+ year olds Etc.
31 posted on 01/12/2021 11:16:18 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: traderrob6

[[Exactly, correlation DOES NOT = causation.]]

It does in liberal land- just look at the ‘man-caused’ climate change lie-


32 posted on 01/12/2021 11:18:01 AM PST by Bob434
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Someone who was infected came in and infected others?

Possibly. It would be the height of irony if the person administering the vaccine was a super spreader...

33 posted on 01/12/2021 11:18:57 AM PST by null and void (When the press doesn’t report something, it’s because the narrative would reflect badly on the Left)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Do you think for a second that we will find out about all the side effects of the vaccine the same way every covid case was tracked on the front pages of every news source?

The exact same cause/effect argument could be used for covid itself, with the fact that 94% of “covid” deaths were covid + an average of 2.6 comorbidities. Just because those 96% had covid when they died doesn’t ben they died from covid. 160K die every year from “chronic lower respiratory diseases” every year, well, except for 2020!


34 posted on 01/12/2021 11:19:44 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"Math sucks. It always seems to tell us what we don’t want to hear."

This isn't about math. This is about logic. Everyone who has ever died did so after breathing oxygen, drinking water, and blinking. That does not mean that breathing oxygen causes death. Nor does it mean that drinking water causes death. Nor does blinking cause death.

Temporal proximity to an event is circumstantial only. There is no causal link being established here. Nor will there be. Your ask is for us to assume that the other 29 million people who've gotten a COVID-19 vaccine are all fine, but these nursing home residents all died from it. What made these people so special in your view that everyone else is fine and these people all died? And where exactly is your evidence of an actual causal association? All you have here is circumstantial evidence and insinuation. No facts. No logic. No reason.

"Like the US death rate and numbers being the same in 2020 as 2019 and 2018"

So tired of this Alex Jones nonsense. I just got done dealing with this nonsense claim before.

Link 1:

Link 2:


35 posted on 01/12/2021 11:20:04 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Were the deaths higher among those who HAD been vaccinated, or among those who hadn’t?

One possibility is that the vaccination makes people mildly contagious while their immunity builds, but that seems unlikely.


36 posted on 01/12/2021 11:20:16 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Bob434
Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you won’t get the virus- it just means that it will be less severe

I'd say death is pretty severe, but that's just me...

37 posted on 01/12/2021 11:20:49 AM PST by null and void (When the press doesn’t report something, it’s because the narrative would reflect badly on the Left)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"The point of my post is that Coronavirus deaths AFTER the vaccine force one of a few conclusions:"

All of them (except possibly B) are wrong conclusions.

The vaccines currently available require 2 doses for full effectiveness. After the first dose, it takes ~8 days to achieve 45% effectiveness in preventing COVID-19. 30 days after the first dose is given, a second dose is given. ~8 days after that dose (and this is from memory so maybe it's 10 days, but whatever), a 95% effectiveness against COVID-19 is achieved.

These residents had only had one dose.

38 posted on 01/12/2021 11:22:36 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Axenolith

Start investigating when the other 29 million people who’ve gotten the exact same vaccines show any signs of this being anything other than the exact same outbreak that’s been happening at elderly care facilities in literally every single country on Earth.


39 posted on 01/12/2021 11:24:39 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
What a weak reply, its not even cause and effect its a guess. Take your own advice;


To: Jan_Sobieski
post hoc, ergo propter hoc: after this, therefore because of this : because an event occurred first, it must have caused this later event —used to describe a fallacious argument
2 posted on 01/12/2021 10:54:43 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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40 posted on 01/12/2021 11:24:59 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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