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To: CheshireTheCat

Note that none of the Democrats can actually articulate a real objection to the law other than crying “racism.” There is absolutely no reason this law should even be controversial. The idea that an American should have a duty to retreat before defending his life in public is ludicrous.


4 posted on 12/18/2020 2:47:38 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight

They don’t want victims shooting their voters. Easy to comprehend. The real need for a new law I stand your ground against agents of the government who are violating the constitution. I would love to read the language of that law.

Police get away with murder many times claiming their lives were in danger. If you shoot a rouge cop, your still going to jail. To me that is just one reason why blue lives don’t matter more. That and the fact that they will do politicians bidding due to 25 year of service and $125K per year pension .....


18 posted on 12/18/2020 7:30:54 PM PST by wgmalabama (I will post less and thinking more from here on out. If this is Gods judgment, then so let it be. )
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To: The Pack Knight; CheshireTheCat
Under existing Ohio law, people are justified in using deadly force in self-defense so long as they aren’t the aggressor, believe they are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, and are in their home or vehicle.

In real life situations the words “and are in their home or vehicle” are meaningless.

If you ‘believe they are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm” it doesn’t matter where you are you have entered Self Defense Mode and have lost the ability to retreat. If try to back away from the danger you have put yourself at a strategic disadvantage due to not being able to see what is behind you and easily losing your balance.

Turning and running also puts you at a strategic disadvantage. You can no longer see your opponent, and unless you are a world class sprinter there is a good chance your opponent will outrun you (someone old like myself would have a hard time outrunning a five-year-old) and injure you by tackling you to the ground. If your attacker has a firearm, he may shoot you in the back.

Once you are in fear for your life you have little choice but to use deadly force if it is available to you.

19 posted on 12/18/2020 7:37:40 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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