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To: jroehl
Actually, I predicted that the matter of standing would block this case from consideration.

My fellow Freepers, while I acknowledge the moral righteousness here and also acknowledge that "no standing" is a typical judicial dodge to avoid making controversial rulings, we have to ask ourselves if one state really has standing to sue over how another state runs its business.

Common sense and morality are not necessarily the basis on how The Law works.

70 posted on 12/11/2020 3:45:39 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: Lysandru

Aren’t there federal laws involved in those states actions?


84 posted on 12/11/2020 3:46:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Lysandru
Actually, I predicted that the matter of standing would block this case from consideration.

I didn't think Texas had standing I've made the argument that POTUS and VPOTUS could have standing to file in SCOTUS under its original jurisdiction. We will see what the next move is.
122 posted on 12/11/2020 3:49:47 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Lysandru

But the other state wasn’t just “conducting its business.” It was breaking the law.


149 posted on 12/11/2020 3:52:10 PM PST by firebrand ( )
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To: Lysandru

Then who, in reality, —does— have standing?


178 posted on 12/11/2020 3:54:01 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 retusrning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Lysandru
> My fellow Freepers, while I acknowledge the moral righteousness here and also acknowledge that "no standing" is a typical judicial dodge to avoid making controversial rulings, we have to ask ourselves if one state really has standing to sue over how another state runs its business.

If they violate the Constitution, and their own laws in such a way as diminish the rights of that State on Federal matters I believe they do ...

185 posted on 12/11/2020 3:54:37 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: Lysandru

Constitution says the states must obey election laws made by their legislators. The 4 states followed election rules not made by their legislators. They operated their elections in an illegal fashion. They violated the Constitution. How does Texas not have standing as a supposed equal state that followed the Constitution


199 posted on 12/11/2020 3:56:02 PM PST by SPDSHDW (Either its shooting time, or we take the long hard path, and force the GOP to Whig out. )
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To: Lysandru

They have standing if states break their own laws and those broken laws affect a national election.


291 posted on 12/11/2020 4:04:14 PM PST by madison10
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To: Lysandru

>>we have to ask ourselves if one state really has standing to sue over how another state runs its business.

Consider this, many states want to allocate their electoral votes based on the popular vote, regardless of how the people within their state voted.

To me that certainly opens the door for one state to demand a recount in ALL states (when that “takes effect”). It certainly is on the board.


410 posted on 12/11/2020 4:13:29 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: Lysandru

If some states brazenly run their business outside established law and that brazen conduct is deleterious to other states, then don’t those affected states have standing to sue to stop that illegal conduct by the rogue states?


568 posted on 12/11/2020 4:25:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Lysandru
we have to ask ourselves if one state really has standing to sue over how another state runs its business.

If not, then who would have standing to enforce Art. 1 sec. 4 clause 1?

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof
689 posted on 12/11/2020 4:36:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Lysandru
"we have to ask ourselves if one state really has standing to sue over how another state runs its business." We are were the United States of America. What they did ABSOLUTELY affected Texas and the rest of the nation, of course we do. A coup is a coup.
924 posted on 12/11/2020 4:57:21 PM PST by ALASKA (Trump will win resoundingly, but it's not going to be pretty.)
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To: Lysandru

What about the equal protection clause?

Does that now mean nothing?


1,064 posted on 12/11/2020 5:13:14 PM PST by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply. Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis.)
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To: Lysandru

States absolutely do.

And Texas was astute enough not to mention voter fraud and to state that their goal was not to change votes or the outcome.

They absolutely have standing.

We have lost state sovereignty since the Civil War.

The left loves to destroy state sovereignty and to grow and empower the federal Leviathan.

Under the federation, if one state does something that harms another state, the harmed state can sue at the USSC for having “equal protection” violated.

In short, if a state cheats and does not follow the USSC and they elect someone fraudulently, that harms other states.

The rogue states violated the USSC by allowing the SoS, AGs, Governors, and Judiciary to ‘essentially’ write election law, which is the province of only the legislature.

By doing so, they allowed fraud which hurt other states by disenfranchising the voters in other states.

This is what Texas was arguing for.

The USSC absolutely should have heard the case, even if they ruled against the 19 states joining the suit.

That they refused to hear the case means that the US Constitution is worthless, states can do what they want.

We are no in a Without Rule of Law (WROL) state.

Conduct your lives and your actions however you want to from this point forward.

There are no rules.

Perhaps the USSC was scared to death that the communists would revolt if they took the case and that resulted in throwing out the fraudulent votes.

What they have done is just unleashed tens of millions of patriots who — up to this point — have prided themselves on being “law-abiding citizens” and supporters of “the rule of law.”

It is now our patriotic duty to refuse to comply, to refuse to abide by all of the unjust, unconstitutional laws that are the result of this unjust, unconstitutional coup that is taking place.

We are now the 1%ers. And not in terms of wealth, in terms of biker outlaws who flout their refusal to comply.


1,115 posted on 12/11/2020 5:21:32 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare to survive.)
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To: Lysandru; Liz; V K Lee

Thank you. A voice reason in a bunch of whiners. Don’t ever, ever quit.

Trump anticipated this. He has a plan. Believe me. Have faith.


1,470 posted on 12/11/2020 7:01:04 PM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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