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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/hospitalized-covid-19-patients-twice-as-likely-to-die-than-those-with-flu-uw-study-finds/

“The survival rate of COVID-19 has been upgraded since May to 99.8% of infections. This comes close to ordinary flu, the survival rate of which is 99.9%.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3909082/posts

Do you believe the CDC’s statistics, when every medical provider and has a financial interest in making every case a covid case?

Do you believe governments when every bureaucrat gains power over you with scaremongering?

In spite of the highly suspect motivations of the “cases” statistics (which are massive false positives, see link #2 above), you still believe the on-the-take medical system and power-hungry bureaucrats.

Fine. I’ll be over here defending Western Civilization against a perpetually manufactured self-serving hysteria.


42 posted on 11/24/2020 9:49:29 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"“The survival rate of COVID-19 has been upgraded since May to 99.8% of infections. This comes close to ordinary flu, the survival rate of which is 99.9%.”"

Apples to oranges. The first link is comparing survival rates for a small group of hospitalized patients. The second link is conspiracy theory nonsense. The last available Infection Fatality Rate published by any authoritative source for the US is 0.65%. Source

"Do you believe the CDC’s statistics, when every medical provider and has a financial interest in making every case a covid case?"

But every case ISN'T a COVID-19 case. Deaths for all non-COVID-19 causes are at normal levels or slightly higher. Nothing is abnormally low. All the normal expected deaths in every single category are happening. Except we're over 300,000 deaths over normal for this year. Those excess deaths began appearing in March, just as the pandemic began. It's sheer lunacy to believe the two are disconnected or that the pandemic is completely made up. The response from state governments? Terrible. Have there been plenty of needless deaths? Yes, because of policies like Governor Cuomo forcing nursing homes to accept known-infected patients while providing zero assistance to contain the spread in places where vulnerable persons are. That's easily tens of thousands of deaths that didn't need to happen. BUT THEY DID HAPPEN.

"Do you believe governments when every bureaucrat gains power over you with scaremongering?"

I believe governments (particularly American ones) are largely filled with lazy, incompetent people who are incapable and unwilling to engage in a massive conspiracy the likes of which you seem to be claiming because it'd be too much work and too difficult for them. I believe President Trump when he says it's real and that his actions during the pandemic have been necessary to save many, many lives.

"In spite of the highly suspect motivations of the “cases” statistics (which are massive false positives, see link #2 above)"

Link #2 is useless because it's a bunch of nonsense. The PCR tests have an issue with false negatives, NOT false positives. The case definition for each disease varies. The CDC epidemiology manual states that one of the first tasks in dealing with an epidemic is to standardize the definition for what constitutes a case for that individual disease and what is required in order to diagnose it. PCR testing identifies specific sequences of RNA only found in SARS-CoV-2. If the PCR test comes back positive, you have SARS-CoV-2 RNA in your body. That is a case. You may not be severely ill. You may have no discernible symptoms at all. But for the case definitions of COVID-19, a PCR test demonstrating that you have SARS-CoV-2 RNA in your body is sufficient to diagnose it as a case.

"you still believe the on-the-take medical system and power-hungry bureaucrats."

I don't consider President Trump a "power-hungry bureaucrat" and I don't think you'll find many doctors willing to engage in defrauding the Federal government so their employer can get a ~2% boost in revenue. Source If your boss came to you and told you to commit fraud against the Federal government which would risk your career, your license to do your job, everything you've worked for your entire life, your only means of survival, and your freedom so his balance sheet could jump up by 2%, what would you do? Roll over?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I’ll be over here defending Western Civilization

Hahahahahaha

58 posted on 11/24/2020 1:07:44 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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