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Nine Reasons Congress Should Nix the Air Force’s F-15EX Purchase
Defense One ^ | August 11, 2020 | John Venable

Posted on 11/23/2020 4:33:23 PM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: Secret Agent Man

F-35 & F-15 missions are completely different.

An F-35 isn’t a long range, high speed/high altitude interceptor. The F-15EX can be made in the 2 seat version to have a weapons officer. The F-35 can’t.

An F-35’s Stealth doesn’t work for Supersonic interception, anyway, because the 30 foot flame coming out the back of the plane kind of gives your position away.

The New F-15’s will keep the F-22’s from getting worn out. Using a F-22 to intercept a Turboprop patrol bomber is one of the biggest wastes of Taxpayer money there is. Send up a Gulfstream with 4 sidewinders on the wings.

If the Future F15EX’s will attack with one F-22 or F-35 and the Stealth plane will direct the high speed missiles carried by the F-15’s and even further on, a Stealth UAV will do that, maybe directed by the backseater in the F-15.

The kind of stuff they’d like to do with existing planes, but they’re old and out of warranty and could have a fatal fatigue problem like the C models.


21 posted on 11/23/2020 8:07:53 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Secret Agent Man

F-35 & F-15 missions are completely different.

An F-35 isn’t a long range, high speed/high altitude interceptor. The F-15EX can be made in the 2 seat version to have a weapons officer. The F-35 can’t.

An F-35’s Stealth doesn’t work for Supersonic interception, anyway, because the 30 foot flame coming out the back of the plane kind of gives your position away.

The New F-15’s will keep the F-22’s from getting worn out. Using a F-22 to intercept a Turboprop patrol bomber is one of the biggest wastes of Taxpayer money there is. Send up a Gulfstream with 4 sidewinders on the wings.

If the Future F15EX’s will attack with one F-22 or F-35 and the Stealth plane will direct the high speed missiles carried by the F-15’s and even further on, a Stealth UAV will do that, maybe directed by the backseater in the F-15.

The kind of stuff they’d like to do with existing planes, but they’re old and out of warranty and could have a fatal fatigue problem like the C models.


22 posted on 11/23/2020 8:07:53 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Secret Agent Man

“It doesnt mean we should buy them in place of f35s”

They’re not being bought in place of F-35’s. The EX is being bought to replace the worn out F-15C in air national guard units primarily for CONUS defense.

And most of the F-35’s in service now are non combat coded “airshow queens”.


23 posted on 11/24/2020 4:10:08 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Voter fraud should be punishable by death)
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To: Check6
The famous episode when an Israeli Air Force F-15 was able to land with one wing.
The F-15 is not only a famous MiG Killer. ...
As told by Easley, it was only after he turned back to shake his instructor's hand,
that Zivi discovered that he had flown and landed without a wing!Sep 15, 2014

24 posted on 11/24/2020 6:22:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tallguy
Jan 11, 2008 — 
The F-15C cracked in half and the cockpit landed separately from the rest of the wreckage. ...
second test flight, soaring into a crisp, perfect Missouri sky over Lambert Field. ...
“Number two's airplane just broke in half!” ...
William Wignall, head of the Air Force accident investigation board, said during a press ...

25 posted on 11/24/2020 6:28:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hugh the Scot

“No one needs more than 640K.”


26 posted on 11/24/2020 6:29:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; TexasGator

I see that you are of a different opinion... just for laughs, would you care to expand on that?


27 posted on 11/25/2020 1:02:42 PM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: Hugh the Scot

It did make for a good drone!


28 posted on 11/25/2020 2:08:29 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Hugh the Scot

No.

Turkey work is calling me from the kitchen.


29 posted on 11/25/2020 4:01:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zhang Fei

Observed events. The AF took about 500 f-15’s out of service.

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=169da539-caa1-4167-a5c3-425a61341c29


30 posted on 11/25/2020 4:07:33 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

[Observed events. The AF took about 500 f-15’s out of service.

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=169da539-caa1-4167-a5c3-425a61341c29]


Thanks. I’m amazed the pilot in the mid-air breakup survived.


31 posted on 11/25/2020 4:18:28 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

You see how many missiles they can put on that thing! Something like 22~24. An F22 using its sensors can data link targeting data to those Eagles.

The airframe,tools and maintenance processes for it are well known. New avionics suite is all the pilots will really need to come up to speed on.


32 posted on 11/25/2020 4:27:20 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

[You see how many missiles they can put on that thing! Something like 22~24. An F22 using its sensors can data link targeting data to those Eagles.

The airframe,tools and maintenance processes for it are well known. New avionics suite is all the pilots will really need to come up to speed on.]


That is impressive. The specs on the F-15 indicate it can carry as much as a B-17 Flying Fortress, which was considered a heavy bomber, vs the Mitchell’s medium bomber designation, due to having 1/3 the bomb load. They call the F-15 a fighter, but despite being half the size, it’s got the carrying capacity, on external hard points, of a prop age heavy bomber.


33 posted on 11/25/2020 4:35:00 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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