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Group of Florida mayors calls on DeSantis to issue mask mandate
The (s)Hill ^ | 11/18/2020 | John Bowden

Posted on 11/19/2020 5:51:29 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

A group of mayors in Florida called on Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) to issue a statewide mask mandate during a conference call on Wednesday to discuss the COVID-19 outbreak in the Sunshine State.

The South Florida Sun Sentinel reported that the mayors of Miami Beach, Sunrise, St. Petersburg, Hialeah and Miami Shores Village urged DeSantis to take a range of actions to confront...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: covid; fl; florida; mask; masks; media; panic
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To: Stravinsky

All the studies coming out confirm that masks do not stop the spread of COVID-19. The latest large study says that wearing masks may increase spread. Maybe pushing masks is agenda driven...


21 posted on 11/19/2020 6:15:59 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Are the mayors Democrat? A competent journalist would add that.


22 posted on 11/19/2020 6:17:07 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: JayGalt

Masks definitely increase the spread of stupidity.


23 posted on 11/19/2020 6:18:23 AM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Texas Eagle
Do I detect a smidgen of snark there?

The Hill...what you detect is pervasive in 99% of media, it's Leftist activists, not journalists.

24 posted on 11/19/2020 6:18:24 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: Stravinsky

New study: Lockdowns & masks are useless and might even increase COVID-19 spread
November 16, 2020 12:03 am Robert Zimmerman

A recently completed research study by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in cooperation with the Naval Medical Research Center and published in the New England Journal of Medicine has found that strict quarantine, tightly controlled social distancing, and continuous use of masks did absolutely nothing to contain the spread of COVID-19, and might even have increased its spread.

First, the study used 1,843 Marine volunteers, individuals well trained to follow orders as well as the required procedures. Second, their quarantine took place at Marine facility under the supervision of the military. Both factors meant that the volunteers were going to follow procedures much more correctly than the general public.

Third, no one could enter the study without undergoing 14-days of quarantine beforehand, plus a test to prove they were negative of COVID-19 at the study’s start. The study itself was held in a tightly controlled quarantine campus run by the Marines.

The volunteers then had to follow this incredibly strict quarantine regiment:

All recruits wore double-layered cloth masks at all times indoors and outdoors, except when sleeping or eating; practiced social distancing of at least 6 feet; were not allowed to leave campus; did not have access to personal electronics and other items that might contribute to surface transmission; and routinely washed their hands. They slept in double-occupancy rooms with sinks, ate in shared dining facilities, and used shared bathrooms. All recruits cleaned their rooms daily, sanitized bathrooms after each use with bleach wipes, and ate preplated meals in a dining hall that was cleaned with bleach after each platoon had eaten. Most instruction and exercises were conducted outdoors. All movement of recruits was supervised, and unidirectional flow was implemented, with designated building entry and exit points to minimize contact among persons. All recruits, regardless of participation in the study, underwent daily temperature and symptom screening. Six instructors who were assigned to each platoon worked in 8-hour shifts and enforced the quarantine measures. If recruits reported any signs or symptoms consistent with Covid-19, they reported to sick call, underwent rapid qPCR testing for SARS-CoV-2, and were placed in isolation pending the results of testing.

Instructors were also restricted to campus, were required to wear masks, were provided with preplated meals, and underwent daily temperature checks and symptom screening. Instructors who were assigned to a platoon in which a positive case was diagnosed underwent rapid qPCR testing for SARS-CoV-2, and, if the result was positive, the instructor was removed from duty. Recruits and instructors were prohibited from interacting with campus support staff, such as janitorial and food-service personnel. After each class completed quarantine, a deep bleach cleaning of surfaces was performed in the bathrooms, showers, bedrooms, and hallways in the dormitories, and the dormitory remained unoccupied for at least 72 hours before reoccupancy.

The result? The virus still spread through this population. As they noted in the paper:

Epidemiologic analysis supported multiple local transmission events, including transmission between roommates and among recruits within the same platoon.

None of these strict lock down mandates, including continuous mask use, did anything to prevent transmission.

More significantly, the control group of Marines who did not participate in this study, and thus were not under the same strict lock down rules, actually saw fewer infections, as shown on the table from the study to the right. While the difference wasn’t very large, it existed nonetheless. One could argue that the overuse of masks probably contributed to the higher numbers in the study group, since even in this tightly controlled setting it is still impossible to expect people to wear masks properly. Even if they replaced them regularly, it is unrealistic to expect people to never touch them while they wear them. Over long periods the masks will become havens for the virus, where the person breathes.

The study also demonstrated once again the relative harmlessness of the disease. Almost all of these young healthy Marine recruits who tested positive were asymptomatic, meaning that they wouldn’t have even known they were infected if they had not been participating. Furthermore, it appears no one even got very sick.

Once again, this data continues to reinforce the very very early data from March. COVID-19 is not dangerous to the young or healthy, and it will spread no matter what you do. The best way to beat it and thus protect the vulnerable older and sick population is to have it spread as fast as possible through the young and healthy population, so that it will die out quickly and thus no longer be a threat.

This is how humans have handled these respiratory diseases since time immemorial. Darwin’s rules made us do it that way, with good results. Too bad our bankrupt political leaders and health officials have decided to abandon these well-proven practices. The result has not only been more COVID-19 deaths, but more deaths overall, from the bad consequences of economic loss, depression, reduced medical treatment available for other illnesses, and numerous other issues caused by the lock downs, not the virus..

Sadly, I fully expect that our fans of lock downs and masks will either refuse to read this study, or if they do, will find any excuse to dismiss it.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717


25 posted on 11/19/2020 6:20:10 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: Stravinsky

Researchers Retract Study Touting Efficacy of Mask Mandates
townhall.com ^ | 11/12/2020 | Bronson Stocking
A study touting the effectiveness of face mask mandates in slowing the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus has been retracted by its authors. An update to the study notes that cases of the virus have continued to rise in areas the researchers analyzed. A study showing that 1,000+ counties in US saw #Covid_19 hospitalizations fall after passing mask mandates has been retracted. “The authors have withdrawn this manuscript because there are increased rates of SARS-CoV-2 cases in the areas that we originally analyzed...”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/11/12/researches-retract-study-on-effectiveness-of-mask-mandates-n2579982


26 posted on 11/19/2020 6:22:46 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ah. I see that now. Still and all, people are free to wear masks if they choose to. It’s not as if DeSantis criminalizing mask wearing the way demonicRAT governors are criminalizing Thanksgiving.


27 posted on 11/19/2020 6:24:06 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; ...

Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers interested in Florida-related topics.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.

28 posted on 11/19/2020 6:25:51 AM PST by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Stravinsky

The results of the long-delayed Danish mask study, Damask-19, have finally been published, and revealed little difference in Covid-19 infection rates between masked and unmasked participants.

Conducted in the spring with over 6,024 adult participants, the randomized, controlled trial highlights the limited efficacy of mask wearing alone in curbing the spread of Covid-19.

Researchers from Copenhagen University Hospital divided the participants into two groups; the masked and the unmasked, all of whom were asked to spend at least three hours per day outside their home. Only those whose occupations didn’t require mask use with no known previous SARS-CoV-2 infection were accepted.

The trial was conducted in Denmark at a time when public transportation and shops operated as normal, while social distancing, limited socializing, hand hygiene, and limited exposure to vulnerable groups, in hospitals and nursing homes were all encouraged. The wearing of masks in public was uncommon at this time.

Roughly half of the participants were issued with 50 disposable face masks, which they were told to change after every eight hours of use.
After one month, all participants were tested with polymerase chain reaction (PCR), antibody and lateral flow tests.

The researchers found no statistically significant difference between mask wearers and bare-faced participants; 1.8 percent of mask wearers contracted Covid-19, while 2.1 percent of the control group developed the disease.

However, there are several caveats.

The study did not test the role of masks in source control (the transmission from an infected person to others), but instead examined the degree of protection mask wearers can expect when combined with other public health measures.

Further, some people didn’t wear the masks properly, with only 46 percent of participants claiming to have properly adhered to the rules throughout.

In addition, among the people who claimed they only wore masks ‘exactly as instructed’ two percent were also infected.

https://www.rt.com/news/507157-danish-study-coronavirus-mask-sudy/


29 posted on 11/19/2020 6:27:46 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: Southern Magnolia

I just don’t abide. Aside from Target, where they have mask Nazis at the door, I just ignore the signs and have yet to be approached by anyone. If you’re a business with mask Nazis out front, I don’t patronize your store. It’s that simple. I’ve spent much more time at local markets and general goods stores than I ever have in the past. I don’t miss WalMart or Target in the least.

The Publix stores near me have their little signs, but none of the customers are wearing masks anymore. Only the Publix employees are diapering up.


30 posted on 11/19/2020 6:31:38 AM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He should order a mask mandate in those cities and give the local officials the credit for it. Also give them the power to vitiate it on their own order.

Let them take the heat.


31 posted on 11/19/2020 6:33:09 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: lightman

It is an unfortunate propensity of people to think that following rules keeps them safe because the rules are made by people with superior knowledge & no ulterior motives.
IOW Sheep-like behavior

Iconoclasm has it’s benefits. I always assume the people spouting dictum are wrong and research for a scientific basis, usually absent. Masks are a flagrant abuse of authority. There has been no proof they have any beneficial effect. Especially any beneficial effect that outweighs the known negative effects.

As you said, masks definitely increase the spread of stupidity. People need to learn to reason & research not just act from fear and obedience to authority.


32 posted on 11/19/2020 6:35:18 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fixed it:

A group of DEMOCRAT mayors in Florida...


33 posted on 11/19/2020 6:37:44 AM PST by VastRWCon (Fake News")
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To: JayGalt
The study did not test the role of masks in source control (the transmission from an infected person to others)

Asymptomatic spread has been disproven in numerous studies over the last 6 months. If you feel sick, stay home. This logic has been in place for centuries. We don't need to legislate it.

The "prevention" is worse than the disease in this case.

34 posted on 11/19/2020 6:39:38 AM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: rarestia

I live in Michigan and have been considering a move to South Florida. With our governor, the timeline keeps getting moved up. I’ll be in Fort Myers for March/April and looking forward to some freedom.


35 posted on 11/19/2020 6:40:57 AM PST by TheRake (If they can force you to wear a mask, they can force you to do other things. Just the beginning.)
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To: TheRake

Florida’s been a hotbed of transplants in the last 6 months. As long as they leave any liberal politics behind, we’re happy to have them.


36 posted on 11/19/2020 6:43:34 AM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: rarestia

My wife and I will be cancelling two liberals when we move there.


37 posted on 11/19/2020 6:45:36 AM PST by TheRake (If they can force you to wear a mask, they can force you to do other things. Just the beginning.)
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To: rarestia
Florida’s been a hotbed of transplants in the last 6 months. As long as they leave any liberal politics behind, we’re happy to have them.

When I leave NY for Florida in 7-10 years, I'll make it much more conservative.

38 posted on 11/19/2020 6:46:06 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: Texas Eagle

If you are afraid of the covid, wear a mask or stay home. Leave the rest of us alone.


39 posted on 11/19/2020 6:57:03 AM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: 1Old Pro

DeSantis is the Democrats top target for 2022. They have to take him out before he becomes the GOP Front-Runner for POTUS.


40 posted on 11/19/2020 6:59:08 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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