Posted on 11/17/2020 12:19:01 PM PST by gattaca
Two men were arrested and charged in Southern California on voter fraud charges after they allegedly submitted thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications on behalf of homeless people, said the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office on Tuesday.
Carlos Antonio De Bourbon Montenegro, 53, and Marcos Raul Arevalo, 34, were charged with one count each of conspiracy to commit voter fraud, eight counts of voter fraud, four counts of procuring and offering a false or forged instrument, and other charges, said the DA’s office in a news release.
The office said Montenegro allegedly submitted more than “8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications between July and October 2020.” He’s also accused of falsifying names, signatures, and addresses on nomination papers “under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in the city of Hawthorne.”
Montenegro also faces another 10 counts of voter fraud, seven counts of procuring and offering a false or forged instrument, two counts of perjury, and five misdemeanor counts of interference with a prompt transfer of a completed affidavit, the office said.
If convicted, Montenegro can face as many as 15 years and eight months in prison, while Arevalo could face seven years in prison, officials noted.
The FBI, District Attorney’s office, the Los Angeles Public Integrity Division, and other agencies are investigating the case.
Other details about the case are not clear. It’s also not clear if their alleged voter fraud scheme affected the presidential election in some way.
It’s not clear if either Montenegro or Arevalo have lawyers.
According to local news outlet The Daily Breeze in a report in August, Montenegro, who was running for mayor in Hawthorne, had “turned in paperwork to run for mayor but failed to meet the required 20 signatures by Hawthorne residents.”
Over the past two weeks, since the Nov. 3 election, President Donald Trump’s campaign and other Republicans have raised questions about voter fraud and irregularities that may have tipped the presidential race to Democratic candidate Joe Biden. The president’s team has filed several lawsuits in key states including Pennsylvania, Georgia, and other places, while citing sworn statements made by hundreds of witnesses.
The Department of Homeland Security’s cyber-security division, in a statement last week, said the past election was the “most secure” in history. Meanwhile, secretaries of state have disputed Trump’s claims of fraud.
However, the chairman of the Federal Elections Commission (FEC), Trey Trainor told Newsmax several days ago that he believes “that there is voter fraud taking place in these places.” Trainor, in a tweet, said a recent claim from Trump lawyer Sidney Powell about his team being able to overturn the election with their cases should be taken seriously.
"eight counts of voter fraud"
Who paid these thieves to try and steal the election? These guys don’t cheat on this scale for nothing.
Why the hell would they need to commit voter fraud in CA? They have that state wrapped up and on the shelf. It was probably a squabble amongst democrat candidates.
That's it exactly. One of the arrested men was running for mayor of Hawthorne and needed more nomination signatures, then votes.
One of the election-night witnesses in a contested city (I forget which . . . ) said he/she saw ballot counters sending the same stack of 50 ballots thru the ballot counter four and five times.
bttt
"Who paid these thieves to try and steal the election?"
Good question.
This IS precisely WHY they have this state under one party rule!!!
They have that state wrapped up and on the shelf
And now you know how they accomplished that, in the state that brought us Nixon and Reagan and which passed by overwhelming numbers a proposition that limits the state's ability to raise property taxes.
There are lots of fruits and nuts in California but I assure you, as a lifelong resident, it isn't 65:35 in favor of the nuts. There may be a heavy Democrat bent and in recent years the lines have been blurred. GOP doesn't know how to talk to Californians. Californians want government out of their bedrooms, and out of their pocketbooks alike. But the Dems have done a great job of demagoguery against GOP due to it's support by evangelicals. A more libertarian, local-control oriented approach to governance (and campaigning) would move the needle here.
Thanks, Travis McGee!
They said “Hey, that’s how they do it in the countries we come from!”
I don’t know how you could live in that state given the cost of living, the absolute theft of the products of your labor through taxation in all its forms, wild fires, power outages, overbearing regulation, home prices...ect.
Why?
“Two men were arrested and charged in Southern California on voter fraud charges after they allegedly submitted thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications on behalf of homeless people, said the Los Angeles County District Attorneyâs office on Tuesday.”
Why bother. With Californians continuing to reelect the same lame Democrats to rub the state every election, it doesn’t seem likely they would vote for a Republican presidential candidate.
Believe me, I am so ready to pack it in and move out of state. It’s not so easy for me, personally, because I own and operate a manufacturing facility. It will cost at least in the low six figures to relocate all the machinery and equipment and inventory. But I’ve been looking.
I’ve got a small but potentially (longer term) lucrative potential to just dump everything and relocate and start from scratch. It is my “go Galt” plan. It may come to that if this covid crap doesn’t end soon. I literally let go of all but one of the employees back in March. From time to time I have a book keeper and a customer service rep come in a few hours a week just so we don’t get too far behind. Business has dropped dramatically and this state is one of the worst in almost every respect, covid just made it worse. I can’t even begin to tell you the cost of all the fees, permits, insurance, inspectors etc many of whom are totally redundant. I pay for the exact same “service” to the county, the state and the federal government every year. It’s absolute madness here.
Wow...
Im so sorry for what you have to deal with. I heard stories of the permits and licensing nightmare (and costs associated with it) to basically open up a popsicle stand in your front yard in CA. I can only imagine.
It really is just theft, pure and simple.
This is just a drop of what’s coming out of Sidney Powell’s fire hose.
Yeah, this covid sh!t has really messed my life up. But I don’t quit. Hanging on by my fingernails. But if it doesn’t let up soon I can start all over. I got plenty of ideas. Got my eyes on Reno, Nevada or even Wyoming though that would be a change of pace for a city boy.. May do me good. The rent would be 1/3 the cost or less - assuming I relocate my existing business. I could just quit and start something new. I have several concepts that I just may start out. Speaking personally, revenues due to covid have plummeted. So I have a few choices. I could sell what I have and start something entirely new. It really may come to that because my industry has been heavily impacted by the lockdowns. Products just don’t turn like the used to, and if I tried to switch to something more consumer oriented... well frankly few businesses are looking for new stuff. They will, once we get on the other side of this but everything is so in flux few are willing to take risks.
Like I said, I won’t quit. I have skills and experience. I can start something new. But I have never really worked for anyone else, always been a self starter and self employed go getter. The world has changed many times since I started. Now with the internet and social media influencers and the like I just need to get past that learning curve (which can’t be that difficult, I mean if the Kardashians are billionaires I think I can eek out a living on these platforms) I may very well liquidate all my assets and move to Reno and start over with something new. What else could I do?
Put a bullet in me before I work as an hourly employee for somebody else. I’ll even pay for the bullet.
Unpossible, there is no fraud.
I hope you are right, and that all the evidence is submitted in a timely fashion. There is a video from a couple of MIT professors that shows a very distinct pattern suggestive of computer algorithms. They showed (in the video, they said there is a lot more similar evidence) that in many counties in Michigan an almost “too perfect” coincidence... that the more GOP registrations in a particular county, the more likely they were to vote for Biden over Trump. Which makes no sense of the surface. But they showed the plot chart including both in-person and mail-in ballots. The greater the GOP registration per precinct, the LESS LIKELY they were to vote for Trump!
It makes absolutely no sense at all. And these charts show and almost identical pattern in every county. Sure, one precinct or even one county might be way outside the mean. But across 7 different counties and vote types? Impossible. The one place it does not occur is of course in Wayne County, home of Detroit.
“If convicted, Montenegro can face as many as 15 years and eight months in prison, while Arevalo could face seven years in prison, officials noted.”
Even if sentenced to the maximum length, it is not nearly long enough. Make it 50 years and then we might get the attention of some of these fraudsters.
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