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To: FlipWilson

Good point. I would also get off this stupid blather on how much better Trump did among different racial/ethnic groups. Hispanics may be one story; but this fixation on black voters is mystifying. If Trump’s share of the black vote was 12% and Mitt Romney’s was 8% in 2012, then that sounds impressive until you realize that blacks are only 13% of the population. A four point increase in that group is an “impressive” gain that only results in a 0.5% change in your support at the end of the day.


10 posted on 11/07/2020 5:36:18 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree; the real path to victory lies with the Hispanic vote. While Trump was able to increase his percentage of the black vote and was really the first R candidate to reach out to the black community since Reagan, we still witnessed huge majorities for the Ds, including against wonderful candidates like John James and Emily Kieczak.


16 posted on 11/07/2020 5:42:33 AM PST by laconic
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To: Alberta's Child

Not to attack you, but I got the impression you were one of the more politically expert, here. I don’t think it’s as you described.

These votes are not distributed or counted evenly. I would think that they are actually a disproportionate part of the states that are currently in dispute in this election.

All presidential politicians talk about the “black vote”, but they really mean large numbers of urban votes in key states that will swing an election.


21 posted on 11/07/2020 5:52:08 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Alberta's Child
It was actually much, much more - if you look at the numbers of fraudulent votes (in Milwaukee, for one example).

You KNOW they were throwing out Trump votes in Milwaukee and other places like DeToilette and Sh*tcago and Philly.

Heck, I saw that video of a voter-counter crumple up a vote in anger and throw it away...

30 posted on 11/07/2020 6:09:57 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Alberta's Child

It also depends on the population of the state. 50% of African American vote in Montana is very different than that of South Carolina.


48 posted on 11/07/2020 7:30:39 AM PST by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: Alberta's Child

[Good point. I would also get off this stupid blather on how much better Trump did among different racial/ethnic groups. Hispanics may be one story; but this fixation on black voters is mystifying. If Trump’s share of the black vote was 12% and Mitt Romney’s was 8% in 2012, then that sounds impressive until you realize that blacks are only 13% of the population. A four point increase in that group is an “impressive” gain that only results in a 0.5% change in your support at the end of the day.]


Kushnerism (i.e. amnesty for drug dealers) to get a bigger chunk of the black vote was always a snipe hunt. It diluted the GOP’s traditional law and order appeal. Then Trump made things worse by reminding voters about Biden’s and Harris’s past law and order credentials. People want drug dealers locked up for decades, not released early. Rabid Trump voters will overlook little stuff like this. But not everyone’s a rabid Trump voter for whom the border wall and bringing jobs back from abroad are the major issues. Law and order is a perennial, and Trump really blurred the distinction between himself and Biden.


52 posted on 11/07/2020 10:06:04 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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