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Debate Fact-Check: How Many Illegal Aliens Live in the United States?
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2020 | Spencer Raley

Posted on 10/28/2020 3:10:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

In the final presidential debate, former Vice President Joe Biden promised that, if elected, he will create “a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people.” While most of the pundits focused on how such a massive amnesty would impact America, there is also much disagreement surrounding the question of how many illegal aliens actually reside in the country. So where did Biden get his “11 million [illegal aliens]” figure? And is it accurate?

To answer those questions, we must first consider how experts calculate estimates for how many illegal aliens currently reside in the United States. The answer is, “it’s complicated.” Obviously, there is no running database of this cohort kept by the federal government, so the figures must be stitched together by sorting through other immigration-related data sources.

There are three primary steps to this process. The first is to determine how many foreign-born individuals currently live in the United States. Second, it must be determined what percentage of those foreign-born are lawfully present migrants. Finally, the total number of lawfully present individuals in the United States is subtracted from the total number of foreign-born residents (excluding citizens born abroad). The difference is assumed to be the base figure for an illegal alien population estimate. Most of the data needed to complete this process is available from an array of different federal government agencies, such as the Census Bureau or Department of Homeland Security.

But it doesn’t stop there, and this is where things get tricky. Every credible statistician acknowledges that many illegal aliens refuse to answer census-related surveys out of a desire to have no contact with the federal government. However, there is now significant disagreement as to how many avoid these surveys. In the past, during a now-lost time when both Republicans and Democrats agreed that illegal immigration was a significant issue, experts agreed that this undercount was probably between 25-35 percent. So, if a raw estimate was right around 10 million, the true population was probably somewhere between 12-14 million.

However, as the political climate surrounding illegal immigration became more polarized, many left-leaning organizations began reducing their assumptions of how many illegal aliens avoided participating in census surveys. Over time, many of these were reduced from as high as 35 percent down to as low as 5 percent today. The half-hearted defense offered for these changes is that these groups believe the ACS is becoming more accurate at incorporating illegal aliens into their annual surveys. However, there is no evidence to back up this claim.

This is where estimates from some organizations, such as the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), depart from many of the more partisan left-wing outfits. FAIR continues to account for the well-established fact that many illegal aliens actively avoid partaking in federal census surveys. By accounting for this, FAIR estimated in 2019 that there were 14.3 million illegal aliens in the United States. That’s approximately 3 million more than the figure that Joe Biden continues to tout.

By contrast, the Pew Research Center (which continues to tweak their methodologies in a manner that yields lower results) believes there are only 10.5 million illegal aliens residing in the United States. That figure is at least 500,000 lower than what the Biden camp claims.

In fact, the only reputable organization that has an estimate which falls in the 11 million range is from the Migration Policy Institute (MPI). However, in addition to employing some of the same statistically questionably tactics as Pew, their estimate is significantly outdated.

So, there is no contemporary data that supports Biden’s claim that there are only 11 million illegal aliens currently residing in the United States. In fact, in 2015, his own administration acknowledged that the real figure was at least 12 million. That figure is on par with FAIR’s estimates at that time, and considerably higher than those by MPI and Pew.

Creating an accurate estimate of the illegal alien population is important. For example, if the Biden administration intends to extend amnesty to all illegal aliens, the difference between 11 million and 14.3 million individuals would have a massive impact on future legal migration. Those who receive amnesty could then in turn sponsor the lawful migration of family members who still live abroad. According to the federal government, each immigrant to the United States, on average, sponsors three to four additional family members for green cards.

Americans deserve to know exactly how a candidate’s platform will impact their lives and the future of this country. And Joe Biden’s botched illegal alien population claims fails to do that.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration
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1 posted on 10/28/2020 3:10:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Probably upwards of 25 million.


2 posted on 10/28/2020 3:11:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: Kaslin

I say it’s closer to 30 million.


3 posted on 10/28/2020 3:11:57 PM PDT by House Atreides
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Approximately all of them


4 posted on 10/28/2020 3:13:20 PM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Kaslin

I recall the US government put out a stat saying there is over 25 million and other groups talk about 30 to 60million. Just walk into any Walmart and it’s clear there’s a lot more than just a few million.


5 posted on 10/28/2020 3:13:38 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Workers)
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To: Kaslin

I bet here in the Tarnished State of California there is upwards of 8 million, hell there are 1 1/2 - 2 million Just in Los Angeles.


6 posted on 10/28/2020 3:15:09 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Kaslin

I have heard the 11 million number since the 1980s.
There is no way it stayed at 11 million for 30 plus years.
America looks A LOT DIFFERENT from the 1980s.

You think of all the big cities it is a lot more than 11 million. My estimate is there are about 70 million.

Clinton, Bush and Obama let A LOT of illegals here.


7 posted on 10/28/2020 3:15:27 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Kaslin
I think once it hit 11 million, polls turned significantly worse so no matter how many hundreds of thousands or millions enter every year, somehow those who leave, die or become citizens must exactly balance it out so it stays at 11 million.

And math where you take a number and add anything to it but it never increases is what drove Georg Cantor mad.

8 posted on 10/28/2020 3:16:33 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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To: Kaslin

Zero. No human is illegal!!!
/sarc


9 posted on 10/28/2020 3:17:27 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ghislaine Maxwell lives and Joe Biden is losing.)
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To: Kaslin

What are the odds that a legal immigrant can’t speak a word of English? They are not hard to find even in the northernmost states.


10 posted on 10/28/2020 3:23:47 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: rodguy911

Hi, Rod. I thought you might be interested in this article and the science the author used to get to his conclusion.


11 posted on 10/28/2020 3:25:37 PM PDT by Bernard (No tag today. Maybe tomorrow.)
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40+ million. It has to be at least that much. They were saying 11 million two decades ago. We’ve let in 1+ million per year up to 2017. Census schmensus.


12 posted on 10/28/2020 3:28:06 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Enlightened1

They won’t tell us because if the truth were known Civil War would erupt.


13 posted on 10/28/2020 3:29:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes.

How could it be allowed to pass uncriticized when panel guests continue to use the 11 million figure for 2012, 2015, 2018 and 2020?

Really, with more and coming in and the 2016 canard about “kids in cages” and “splitting up families, tearing children from their mothers” there had to be more millions by now. And all the women stopped having more babies? Odd. They used to average 5-6 children per woman (Arab and Latina birthrate estimate I saw.)


14 posted on 10/28/2020 3:38:47 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote frauharvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: central_va
I think there are 11 million in and around DC.

Try going to a SAMS club after 6 and see how many Hispanic's (they are all speaking Spanish) are in the store.

Or try a Wally World (same result).

15 posted on 10/28/2020 3:40:37 PM PDT by sleepwalker (The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades)
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To: Reno89519; Kaslin

I find it fascinating that we killed a whole bunch of natural born Americans and replaced that population with other country’s rejects. It would seem that was not good policy. The two populations are roughly the same, isn’t that interesting?


16 posted on 10/28/2020 3:43:53 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (“Feels Up and Heels Up 2020”)
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To: jacknhoo

Three and more decades ago, actually.


17 posted on 10/28/2020 3:46:08 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe)
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To: Kaslin

The big unanswered question is whether children of illegals born in the U.S. are illegals. Never answered by the U.S. S.Ct.


18 posted on 10/28/2020 3:50:24 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Kaslin

“11 million undocumented people”

If only we could find those pesky documents!!!


19 posted on 10/28/2020 3:51:08 PM PDT by utax
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To: Kaslin

There are at least 20-30 million. I don’t know where these people are getting their low-balled numbers. And they all get rent subsidies, food money, gas money, free cell phones, free internet, aid to dependent children and free healthcare. They get a driver’s license and jobs if they want them. No one asks for proof of citizenship anymore or social security numbers. Free education too.


20 posted on 10/28/2020 3:51:32 PM PDT by doc maverick
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