Posted on 10/27/2020 11:14:45 AM PDT by george76
The latest numbers from the CDC reveal hospitals have been counting patients who died from serious preexisting conditions as COVID-19 deaths. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more, as the CDC counts over 51-thousand patients who actually died from heart attacks, as opposed to the coronavirus.
(Excerpt) Read more at oann.com ...
search there are other data sets.
Pretending they didn’t know this for many months.
A drunk who died of alcohol poisoning had his death certificate re-classified in Denver by democrat beaurocrazzies .. The Montezuma County Coroner’s Office disputed the (democrat run) state’s claim, saying the drunk actually died of alcohol poisoning..
County Coroner George Deavers and a pathologist determined the cause of death was ethanol toxicity. The person’s blood-alcohol content was 0.55.. a BAC of 0.3 is considered lethal.
COVID was listed on the death certificate to get extra federal money.. and political scare points..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3844963/posts
According to former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson :: the state of Massachusetts has suddenly changed the way they are counting coronavirus deaths..
Massachusetts is going back and adding new deaths to old totals - to get more Federal Cash.. -2- backdating makes it tough to tell what the real mortality rate is.
Yes they are doing that for the Money and for the democrats.
But it is fraud, and they need to go down for it IMO.
Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota family physician .. Medicare pays a hospital $13,000 bonus if the hospital admins paperwork says (lies) that covid was involved.... If the paperwork says that a ventilator was involved the hospital admins get $39,000..
Jensen .. under the CDC guidelines, a patient who died after being hit by a bus and tested positive for coronavirus would be listed as having presumed to have died from the virus regardless of whatever damage was caused by the bus.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/physician-blasts-cdc-coronavirus-death-count-guidelines
No “forging” involved. If it is their professional opinion , that is the dx. There could be a get-taxpayers-money incentive for many. Got to keep the hospital in good financial state. I disagree with your conclusion .
Thank you.
All of these hospitals were down on revenues from the lack of elective surgeries and oncology treatments.
I know through a buddy one of the top orthopedic surgeons in the Boston area. He is one of the best orthopedic specialists in the country/world. He has three clinics. He was losing $25k/week due to the fact that all of his clinics were closed.
So, do I believe that hospitals/doctors named covid-19 as a cause of death when it was not the main factor? YES.
In fact, I believe that hospital administrators even changed the cause of death to covid-19 after the doctor wrote the correct one. Hospitals were hemorrhaging cash. This was a easy way to get revenue.
Former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson has been writing about the Unreported Truths about covid and unconstitutional Lock-downs….
Berenson said he’s grateful for everyone who spoke out, but Musk, the tech mogul behind Tesla and SpaceX, probably made the most noise when he called the censoring of the booklet “insane” and called for Amazon to be broken up…
It was shortly after that that Amazon contacted me and said, ‘We’re going to go ahead and publish this,’” Berenson said.
I post facts that are backed by authoritative sources in a multitude of sources. People aren’t afraid of facts; they’re afraid of the unknown. When you try and convince people that all the things we know are wrong and that nobody knows what’s going on, you’re driving fear in the same way Alfred Hitchcock did: creating a fear of the unknown.
If I were working against President Trump, I wouldn’t be here. He’s my President and I will continue working for him and supporting his agenda. I will continue to support his message and his re-election. And I will continue to call you out when you post lies and nonsense driving fear into people. You have no authority here. You have no power. You have no say. This isn’t your site. And after thousands of posts, I’m still here posting facts that demonstrate that there’s no need to fear this pandemic and no reason to blame anyone but the governors for the failed response to it.
If you don’t like what I have to say, stop reading it.
Not that it matters, but I told you previously that I was not only a hazmat officer, but the senior hazmat officer in charge of a hazmat team. Chemical and Biological threats were my livelihood, not to mention decades of experience riding to the hospital in the back of rescue units assisting people with life threatening contagious respiratory ailments. This received no acknowledgment from you, just as you have given no acknowledgment to those more eminently qualified to comment on the coronavirus situation than I. You simply steam roll over everyone here.
Your obvious intent is to advance a narrative of fear based on statistical information based on intentionally flawed raw data. This has been the goal of the Democrats for months. That combined with your repeated use of Alinsky tactics convinces me that you are most likely a troll who will disappear after the election. So there is some solace in that.
Until you arrived here I was unsure that the Dunning–Kruger effect was an actual phenomena. But your posts provide what appears to be proof. I assume that you are a young person who is a victim of our “everyone gets a participation award” educational system.
This is from CDC's Excess Mortality page. The green represents everything non-COVID related. As you can see, normal expected numbers. And here are selected other causes (also from that same page):
The interesting thing to note about this one is the blips that happened at the beginning and middle of May for dementia and circulatory causes. It would be very easy to mistake a COVID death for one of those if you didn't know what you were looking for or simply had no way to test. Once COVID tests became available, suddenly those numbers went right back to normal.
All this adds up to regular causes of death being at normal levels when measured against the previous 5 years. But we still have a number of excess deaths as shown here:
Again, all of these are coming from the same location: that CDC page.
Please do not take the remarks from 2aProtectsTheRest to heart. He is a leftist troll using charts based on intentionally corrupted data to try and frighten the public in an effort to defeat President Trump.
How is the biggest HMO on the West Coast currently handling CV 19 in its clinics and hospitals?
In late March of this year, it would have been easiler to get into the NSA or CIA than into any of this HMO’s hospitals, if you were a family member of a patient in a Hospital of this HMO>
If your loved one had a severe health problem or needed emergency surgery, you could not even go into the hospital with your loved one. You had to park in the parking lot and could not come into the hospital to be with your loved one. This was SOP for most hospitals in America and still is.
We had friends, who had dropped off relatives at the ER doors of this HMO and couldn’t see them again, until they were discharged. Even then the patients were brought out to the curb to be loaded into their family’s vehicle. The relatives could not go inside the hospital. Again, this was apparently SOP at hospitals across America.
All of these precautions were apparently based on the current data at that time on CV19 re transmission and so called lethality of CV19.
Even in mid August, rules re going into this HMO’s hospitals/clinics were very stringent. I was re scheduled for September for foot surgery.
The foot doctor wanted me to have some heavy duty pain pills so he ordered a small amount at their pharmacy in my home town. Again this was Mid August, 2 months ago.
We had to park at special signs and phone the pharmacy. They sent a pharmacy tech out to check my ids and HMO card. Then, he escorted me to the parking lot entrance. 2 RN’s did separate electronic temp checks, and I signed a note that I felt okay. Again my member card and California ID was checked. My wife had to stay in our car and was told she could not get out.
Then, I was escorted to what had become a huge waiting room. After about 10 minutes I was escorted to the pharmacy tech to get my rx. Then, the pharmacy tech escorted me to my car and my wife was still inside the car. Then, a uniformed security guard told me to follow him to exit the parking lot.
Flash forward to the 3rd week of September for my foot operation, and their CV 19 world had changed.
We went into the hospital via the parking lot, and we had 2 temp scams from big machines attached to the ceilings. Real RNs in that area told us that we could go to where my operation would be done. That was it. The temp checks at the door to the hospital.
Post op, my wife brought me down in a wheel chair. I was loaded into the car, my wife drove me home.
A couple of weeks later, we went back to the hospital to have my stitches removed. There were no RN’s manning the entrance. A security guard was there and told us to go on to where we were going. He said that the temp checks had been done. We did not hear the process that we heard before.
We walked unescorted to the foot clinic. After my stitches were removed we left. Again no escorts.
On 27 October, I went to our local HMO clinic for some lab tests. I had zero temp checks. I was just asked if I had a fever or didn’t feel good. I told them that I was fine. They gave me a disposable mask and that was it. No escorts to the lab. I went there and got into line like other patient. After about 10 minutes, five of us were called to go into the drawing station. I had to show my picture ID again.
After my blood was drawn, I left the lab unescorted and went to our vehicle. I asked the parking lot guard if I could leave our vehicle there for a few minutes, while we walked to a grocery store across the street. He said no problem and walked away. We brought our groceries, walked back to our car and said Hi to the security guard and left.
Unknown to us a friend had dropped off another friend at the local hospital (non HMO) at their ER doors. This hospital is about 6 blocks away as a sober crow can fly. Our friend, the driver could not go into the other hospital and drove home. She came back in a couple of hours to pick up the dropped off friend, post her procedure. Again no entrance to the hospital, the patient was wheeled out and loaded in our friend’s vehicle.
So what has changed at this major HMO re their Covid 19 precautions in less than 3 months?
Obviously, their real data/reality is totally different than the daily Covid B$ we are fed here on Free Republic, via the mediots and our Karens!
Why aren’t the patients at this huge HMO dropping and dying like flies after be exposed to the dreaded CV19?
Actually, I get along fine with doctors and nurses here. In fact, I talk with several of them through direct mail messages and have had several thank me for my support when people who are clearly anti-science started attacking them.
Facts don’t scare people. The fact is there’s an upper bound to COVID-19 and it’s easy to calculate using the R0 and the IFR. The fact is that vaccines are nearly here (thanks to President Trump’s efforts in Operation Warp Speed) and they will drive us to herd immunity, starving the virus of vulnerable hosts. The fact is that by this time next year, the only thing we’ll be talking about with regards to COVID is the economic damage done by governors’ responses to it, as the masks and social distancing and all that stuff will be gone. And if we’re lucky, we’ll be talking about how President Trump’s efforts are getting the economy back on track.
Again, if you don’t like my posts, then stop reading them. I don’t care, and I’m done with this ridiculous distraction.
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