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To: 11th_VA

These claims are highly misleading. Yes, Trump won a convincing electoral college victory, however that was due to him over performing expectations in a couple states, namely Michigan and Wisconsin and Iowa. Polls showed trump winning Florida and Ohio. Pennsylvania was well within the MoE. He was the underdog to be sure but not nearly as big as many people now think.

The national polls were almost dead on accurate. That’s just false to say the national polls were wrong in 2016.

Anyone thinking the “polls are wrong” this year is gonna be in for a big fvcking surprise. Trump is in a deep deep hole and is in WAY way worse position than this time in 2016.


47 posted on 10/18/2020 6:57:43 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Trump is in a deep deep hole and is in WAY way worse position than this time in 2016.
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So, every down ticket campaign is being gaslighted by the Trump internal poll releases?

Every metric meticulously examined by multiple competitive statisticians and vote auditors, who slice and dice down to the precinct level (or finer) is way off and is contradicted by Dem polls?

The preponderance of anecdotal evidence, supported by video and personal testimonials, are inconsequential?

I will ask the same question I always pose to those who agree with you: what is your personal Plan B for when we become the USSA/People’s Republic of the United States?


49 posted on 10/18/2020 7:23:06 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

You are out of your mind!!!


50 posted on 10/18/2020 7:30:31 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“Polls showed trump winning Florida and Ohio.”
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Two weeks before the election, polls showed Clinton up 4 points in Florida and 5.9 nationally. That was the Realclearpolitics average. Polls will tighten over the next two weeks as pollsters use EV data and reality to tweak their polls.

When you say the national polls were almost dead on accurate, you are referring to the one day before election day polls. Those showed Clinton with a 3.3 national lead which was, in reality, a 2.1% lead.

At this point, the real comparator is 2 weeks before election day, and the 2016 polls were showing a fairly comfortable 4 lead for Clinton in Florida.


59 posted on 10/19/2020 5:45:05 AM PDT by Rumierules
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