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Is War With China Becoming Inevitable?
Townhall.com ^ | October 13, 2020 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 10/13/2020 10:33:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: PGR88

Uighers is a business China can handle. They’ll treat them the way Hitler treated the Jews and the world won’t care.


21 posted on 10/13/2020 11:05:55 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Kaslin

It might have been a mistake to turn Japan into a pacifistic state. We could use some of those old-school samauri warriors in our fight with the Chicoms.


22 posted on 10/13/2020 11:06:47 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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To: Kaslin

The smart way to fight China should they make war is to naval blockade outside the first island chain. They are not self sufficient in feeding themselves. And the food they grow themselves is highly dependent on fertilizer imports. They have little oil and most of what they get comes via the ocean. Then of course you have the reverse side, where they won’t be exporting much if they can’t ship via the South China Sea.

This is not complicated to do. And this is why China is wary of the USA. I am not a chicom, but I can’t think of a good scenario at the moment to make them calculate a war with the USA would be to their advantage.


23 posted on 10/13/2020 11:11:24 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: M Kehoe

Thank you, 5.56mm M. Kehoe.

FR is only game in town.


24 posted on 10/13/2020 11:11:44 AM PDT by Quentin Quarantino
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To: qam1

Don’t worry about them getting into the US. Just build a wall along the 49th parallel and increase USCG patrols along the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River/Gulf. Why? Our feckless Prime Mistake, Justin(e) True-dope, never heard of an immigrant that he didn’t want living in Kanadahar (aka Canada).

There are enough idjits in Eastern Kanadahar (ON, QU and the Maritimes) who would re-elect Fidel’s number one son as Prime Mistake of Kanadahar. If war broke out between India and China, he would bring in at least a million a year! What better way to destroy what is left of our economy that is not socislist AND, the bonus for him, PIZZING OFF PDJT, with so many of these million, seeking to sneak into the US!

You think that Sleepy Joe and Heels-up Harris are dim, lacking in intelligence? In a world of 100 Watt bulbs, Sleepy Joe and Heels-up may be 60 Watt. True-dope? A 20 Watt bulb, if that!

God help America and God help Alberta and Saskatchewan! AFA the rest of Canada? You made your bed, now you can sleep in it!


25 posted on 10/13/2020 11:12:04 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Kaslin

China is just an idea.


26 posted on 10/13/2020 11:12:47 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts.)
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To: Kaslin

We will never have a direct war with China...Proxy war..yes.


27 posted on 10/13/2020 11:13:05 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: Kaslin

China has been at war with the US for some time. Not a military war but a war nonetheless. A good example is their bio-weapon attack on the US by sending the caronavirus here in January. I believe it was on purpose and therefore an attack by an identifiable enemy. I also believe POTUS knows it.


28 posted on 10/13/2020 11:16:48 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Kaslin

A war with the PRC violates the First Rule - Never get involved in land war in Asia.
No reason we couldn’t destroy their maritime commerce, though, preferably on someone else’s (India?) behalf...


29 posted on 10/13/2020 11:22:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: Kaslin

Wonder what a dozen or so well positioned simultaneous airburst munitions would do to that mass of PLA troops? Would there be enough of them left to send home?


30 posted on 10/13/2020 11:25:48 AM PDT by katana
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To: Kaslin

Again, Pat asks all the right questions.

“What is our strategy here? Are we prepared for a naval and air clash in these waters? What would be the U.S. strategic goal? “

In reference to the South China Sea it’s to ensure free navigation. It’s the White Man’s Burden.

And yes, we’re prepared for a clash in those waters.

As for India, they can handle it on their own. Pat’s right on this. We have no interests there other to ensure India’s nuclear deterrent survives.

Taiwan is just a proxy for our legitimate, strategic interests in the South China Sea. And Hong Kong has fallen.


31 posted on 10/13/2020 11:26:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Kommodor

Trump if re-elected has to put so much pressure on the Chinese communist party that it starts making mistakes in the eyes of the people and loses the mandate of heaven.

We really need a Radio Free America operation for the far east. Xi is reckless whereas other chicom leaders have been content to wait and buy time. I think Xi got drunk on power with the last Obama term and now wants to bully China’s way into total hegemony in the far east and it’s hurt him and China.


32 posted on 10/13/2020 11:28:35 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Kaslin

China is on the verge of their own banking crisis and possible collapse. They cannot fight a war without resources and by consequence capital. Overt aggression against India and Taiwan may not trigger a shooting war but it is unlikely there would not be negative implications regarding trade. Could China seriously depend on resupply through shipments passing through the Indian Ocean? Relations between China and Russia have in the past been tense; how much could China depend on Russia helping them in the event of hostilities with other countries?

Military action by China is liable to result in engagements (militarily or economically) on multiple fronts. I see any such action as an irrational act of desperation and an indications of an impending collapse. Like North Korea China is engaging in saber rattling and not much else...


33 posted on 10/13/2020 11:50:45 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: qam1

Both are coming here whether we like it or not, check the legal and illegal arrival stats. And many will remain loyal to their ‘homelands’ despite leaving for our greener pastures. Like the Californians did to Colorado.


34 posted on 10/13/2020 11:53:55 AM PDT by JungleGoat77 (.)
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To: BJ1

“The smart way to fight China should they make war is to naval blockade outside the first island chain.”

And you are smart. That’s why Taiwan is so important. Makes that blockade impossible if the ChiComs own Taiwan.


35 posted on 10/13/2020 11:59:14 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: sarge83

[Trump if re-elected has to put so much pressure on the Chinese communist party that it starts making mistakes in the eyes of the people and loses the mandate of heaven.]


The Mandate of Heaven occupies a space in Western shibboleths about China right next to the non-existent Chinese phrase “May you live in interesting times”. It’s used as politesse to lend an air of legitimacy to new regimes while obscuring the fact that this legitimacy rests mainly on feats of arms, a veritable stack of betrayals of principles and sacred oaths and was accompanied by great slaughter. As a reason a new regime came to power, “the ancien regime had lost the Mandate of Heaven” sounds nicer, intoned by a slanty-eyed James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman, than “his sword arm proved better at cutting down his enemies than all other contenders”.


36 posted on 10/13/2020 12:20:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Leep
We will never have a direct war with China...Proxy war..yes.

High probability of being correct. Direct war is a losing bet for both China and the U.S.A. We will indirectly support proxies with weapons and intelligence. China has few friends in the area, and is getting other Asian nations pissed off. As long as that is the case, we should stay out of any direct intervention with China. We need to get our house in order first.

37 posted on 10/13/2020 12:51:04 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Kaslin

The Chinese declared war on us some time ago.


38 posted on 10/13/2020 12:53:35 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: roadcat

“We need to get our house in order first.”

So, don’t vote for Biden? /s


39 posted on 10/13/2020 12:59:35 PM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: Kaslin

More than most anything else, the Pentagon is the all time champion in war gaming. They are obsessed with it and do it constantly. And their conclusions, with mountains of variables, are translated into operational orders.

In addition, the surveillance of China, for example, is intense. If we observed them making necessary preparations for a war with India, and fed India the right data, Chinese forces would be brutalized as soon as they attacked.


40 posted on 10/13/2020 1:00:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing." -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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