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I don’t defend what these folks are reported to have done.

I find myself needing a whole lot more convincing before I
buy into this being anything near what it is being presented
as.

These lockdowns are very questionable. Some pretty learned
people are referencing them as out and out Constitutional
infractions of a major magnitude.

One well known individual called it the biggest infringement
on person rights since slavery.

Whether that’s dead on target or not, people have been
pushed farther than they need be, and this sort of thing
was bound to surface one way or another.

What these guys reportedly wanted to do was an absurdity.

What Whitmer is dgoing is no less of one > IMO.

She is screwing with the public here, and the public
isn’t going to take this lying down indefinitely.

It’s way beyond time to open up. Now do it.

I know, I know, November 4th...

"These lockdowns are very questionable. Some pretty learned people are referencing them as out and out Constitutional infractions of a major magnitude."

Agreed, from what little I've read about them. The government lockdowns sound pretty bad.

I'm in a world apart in a state with no government mandates to slow businesses down. Also tired with trying to get some personal things done before winter while fighting a health difficulty, and I don't have time to read much about other places. Anyway, people here and there are getting sick in my locale. Some of them haven't returned to work, yet, so there are rumors.

Some service businesses are running very slowly (restaurants, gyms, etc.). Others continue doing well (groceries, big discount stores, vehicle service,...). Consumer habits are changing. Went to a tire shop recently, and that was busy. A neighbor works in a steel fabrication shop, and they're suffering from cancellations of export contracts (a client company in Mexico for one, reportedly because of the epidemic or resulting economic problems).

And there's the election. A couple of conservative young folks (not like most) told me that women in management in local service businesses (a Walmart, for one) are complaining about President Trump at times during their lunch breaks. This is a very conservative agricultural area, so it seems odd that they would be hired and retained for the better positions. They also reportedly complain about men in general a lot, having long ago replaced their husbands with creepy goons. Their kids and grandkids are a mess.

Heh...rambling here (tired) and need to get back to work.

I do sympathize in regards to the lockdowns in blue states, by the way. Many in our current society don't like being coerced with threats of fines to avoid getting sick and spreading a disease. Politicians reacting with antagonizing, negative statements and suffocating regulations to get people under control are ignorant and childish. Looks like they're looking for trouble. The best remedy I can see to an epidemic is a guru approach, like some of what was done in the world wars to get people involved. Innovation and invention are encouraged and accomplished with such campaigns resulting in strengthened economies.

But with the coinciding conspiracy theory epidemic and our spoiled "me" generations, that's not going to happen, either. Hope the antisocial political and cultural situations here don't entice some tyrannical foreign nation to make a biowarfare move with a more deadly germ sometime in the near future. Without the aforementioned innovations and inventions in advance, we're sitting ducks.