But none of those reports could ever assert the virus came from a lab, let alone a particular lab, because to make such a claim, solid proof of a link between the virus and the alleged lab is needed.
Can you give an example of the kind of "solid proof" that you need that will satisfy you? We don't have a time machine to take us back to Wuhan and even if we had, the Chinese authorities will NEVER allow foreigners to get near the place, so the only thing we have are genetic clues and circumstantial evidence like NO bats being sold in the Wuhan Wet Market and cover-ups from the CCP where even the original doctors who wanted to tell the world that it was transmissible to humans were either silenced ( e.g. Dr. Li Wen Liang ) or disappeared ( Dr. Fang Bin ), among others.
Despite her sensational claims, she has not produced any such proof that is critical to her claims
Did you read the scientific paper that she published for ALL to read. It can be found in
THIS LINK .
If you believe that this isn't at least partial proof, please critique the paper for us. Suffice it to say that she isn't afraid for the scientific community anywhere to read and critique her work. She wants
everyone to read it. There exists a De Facto peer review if anyone bothers to read it and point out its flaws.
note that I personally believe it was an engineered virus by the CCP.
OK, you don't believe Dr. Yan, yet you believe exactly what she told the world -- that it was engineered. Maybe your reasons for believing are different from hers. Care to share them?
Another thing is, she had been in Hong Kong the whole time (which makes one wonder how much she really knows about the Wuhan lab and the virus)
Yan said that she was one of the first scientists in the world to study the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, after Leo Poon, her supervisor at the University of Hong Kong (a WHO reference lab), asked her to look into a cluster of SARS-like cases in Wuhan, in December 2019.
According to Fox News,
Yan maintained an extensive network of medical professionals from mainland China, one of whom purportedly told Yan about human-to-human transmission of the novel disease on 31 December 2019 ( Chinese doctors in Wuhan were already telling the authorities that, Doctors like the departed, Li Wen Liang and the now disappeared, Fang Bin. There are also citizen journalists who have disappeared as well, one name stands out -- Chen Qiushi (sort of like the James O'Keefe of China). So,these are simply corroboration of her claims). According to Yan, she reported her findings about the virus multiple times to her superiors, including on 16 January, after which she says she was warned by her supervisor "to keep silent and be careful".
She steered two kinds of research on the "new pneumonia" in China in mid of December and early January and the second one in mid-January, and shared the results with her supervisor, who is a World Health Organisation (WHO) consultant.
She said she anticipated her supervisor to do the "right thing on behalf of the Chinese government and WHO" but to her surprise, she was told to "maintain silence or else she would be made to disappear", which the Virologist said was common sense among the Chinese.
Question: Does one have to be PHYSICALLY in Wuhan to discover what you think you know?
Put yourself in her position ( if her claims are true )... you know you have the truth about the virus, yet, you also know that your loved ones are in China. Will you simply shut up and let the situation die down? Or will you follow your conscience and tell the world what you believe you know and SACRIFICE your job, your family, and your reputation ( sure to be tarnished by China, the WHO and skeptics world-wide )?
As for arranging for her mother to leave China and go to HongKong, that's easier said than done. China was still in lockdown mode then and HK was limiting travel from the Mainland. Does one simply uproot oneself from one's home because one's daughter tells her to?
BTW, She is married and her husband is still in China ( I don't know if her father is still alive ).
- I have read a lot of material from various sources before I was convinced it was an engineered virus, long before I or anyone in the US even heard of her. That she also thinks it is an engineered virus has no bearing on what I think of anything else she has espoused.
- Ideally you do need to be physically in Wuhan to collect samples and do any serious investigation of the various sites, that’s why researchers want to go there. When that is not possible, they settle for studying the outbreak and the virus from a distance.
- The evidence required is not to satisfy me or any individual, it has to meet a certain level of confidence in the accepted scientific research practices. No reputable source has ever asserted the virus came from a lab because the bar is indeed very high; the most they would say is it is highly likely. That is proper because one cannot jump to conclusions and make sensational claims when the evidence is lacking or inadequate.
- If we never get the definitive evidence required, so be it. What we already know so far is enough to hold the CCP accountable for spreading the pandemic, if not for creating the virus.
- I have no plan to read her paper, just not interested. If she had evidence linking the virus to a specific lab, it is safe to say the information must have already been covered in the copious material already published on the subject, when all projects undertaken by all the labs under suspicion going back decades were carefully examined for clues, though it is possible she might have packaged things differently in her paper.
- To really know the truth of the genesis of this virus, one has to go way back beyond the outbreak in December 2019. The virus had to be created and ready to deploy well before then, which explains how the CCP already had a vaccine ready for testing I believe back in March 2020 (need to confirm). If she only got involved since last December, she was already very late to the party and definitely not in the loop.
- “she was told to “maintain silence or else she would be made to disappear””. Sorry I don’t believe it for a nanosecond, not to mention it was not in the initial version I read or heard from her (can’t remember). I doubt even Dr. Li WL was being treated to that kind of speech when he was reprimanded by the CCP goons. She was either lying outright or blatantly embellishing there, but it only serves to reinforce my impression of her of not being very honest, and makes everything else she says suspect.
- We will never know the true motivation why people do what they do, so all the talk about moral choices are of little use. And she could always have exposed the truth anonymously and safely if she wanted to, especially since she was in HK, with easy access to many information channels. So let me now present a totally different picture here largely based on my observations, though not saying any of it is true:
Obtaining legal status to live in the US is still the aspiration of many from China, especially the highly educated and well-off. It appears to me she is very intelligent, quickly saw the opportunity and jumped - apply for asylum on the flimsy excuse of being fearful for her life. Besides, no one knows anything about her relationship with her husband, and boy, what a bonus if she had been thinking about going her own way; and her goal is so important she couldn’t let concerns for the old folks to delay it or get in the way.
You are welcomed to disagree with any of the above, which is all I have to say about the Doctor.