The Debate Post-Mortem

Townhall.com ^ | October 1, 2020 | Kurt Schlichter

[Kaslin]

It was a bit surprising that Grandpa Badfinger showed up Tuesday, and also a bit surprising that he didn’t start a chat with an invisible friend or Nadler himself on stage. Nor was it surprising that Donald Trump came in hard and fast, particularly since it was two against one. The Coast Guard’s got nothing on Chris Wallace in terms of tossing drowning men life preservers.

Who won? Trump, by a little. This was not a “disaster” or “a mess” simply because it got loud and unruly. With one possible caveat, it was not likely to move the needle. And this was peak Biden – he gets no better than this. He did a dozen early am lids prepping to basically achieve not falling over and mumbling to himself as he jerked and twitched on the floor.

Now, the prissycons are all up in arms because Trump was mean and interrupted people. Boo hoo – tighten the hell up, people. Why would you be smiley while getting tagged-teamed by a media hack and Methuselah? The sensitive folks who are all about the decorum were not the target audience for those tactics. Trump likely figured, rightly, that the “Oh well I never!” has nowhere else to go. None of them is thinking, “Yeah, I love conservative justices upholding free speech, free exercise and gun rights in an unpacked Supreme Court, a rebuilt military, a hardline on China, Mideast peace plus support for Israel, and not offing babies up to kindergarten, but Trump was really argumentative so I’m voting for the rioting Marxists who want to ban Buicks and BBQ grills.”

He’s got the squishies and he will keep them – the full Fredocon losers (never go full Fredocon) all abandoned ship in 2016. Trump was aiming at other people - people not so repressed and fussy that a little loud talking makes them cry. He was aiming at non-traditional voters, particularly ones who he thought would respond well to a show of strength. Among the post-pile-on polls were the expected MSM polls showing Biden “won” – and not by that much – was a really interesting one from Telemundo, the Spanish language network. Trump won that at 66%. With other indications that Trump is over-performing with Latino voters, this has got to trouble the Dems.

There are lots of potential voters, including ones who usually do not vote, who will respond well to a show of raw strength instead of buying into the elitist notion of propriety above all. Remember who famously bought that particular handful of magic beans? That’s right, the amazing Mitt Romney (“R”-Miracle Whip). He was a gentleman, a nice guy, and a hapless sap who eagerly donned his vinyl suit to grovel at the leather hip-booted feet of Mistress Candy Crowley.

Real men, and real women, don’t vote for submissives.

Let’s imagine if Trump had decided to play the conformity game. Let’s imagine he patiently waited his turn to answer Oldfinger’s well-rehearsed lies. Let’s contemplate what would have happened if he obediently answered the loaded questions, and only the loaded questions, that Chris Wallace hit him with. What then?

He would have looked weak. Imagine waking up today to the headline, “Pathetic Trump Dominated by a Powerful, Potent Joe ‘Conan’ Biden!” If Trump was the well-behaved lad some on our side preferred, he'd be squeezing into the gimp box with president Mitt right about now. If you have to err, err on the side of not being a sissy.

Moreover, he had to interrupt and ignore Wallace to get out the truths the establishment wants suppressed. Those semi-engaged potential voters, and the folks who only watch Channel 7 Action News, were probably stunned to hear that Biden can’t name a single cop org that is supporting him, that Antifa is an “idea” (of course Wallace blew the obvious follow-up – “So, is it a good or a bad idea?”), and that after Hoover Biden got booted from the Navy he was blasting rails off the taut bellies of hookers while pocketing multi-million dollar checks from Putin’s pals in Moscow. Trump exposed these people to the undernews the mainstream media had decided to hide, and despite his best efforts, Chris Wallace could not stop him. Bottom Line: Trump had to be so Trumpy.

Will Biden go for Round 2 and 3? Maybe. I expected he would be a no show on the 29th so perhaps he will. But remember that Biden has the most to lose. Trump can pretty much say or do anything within the bounds of the expected and keep his followers, but if Biden vapor locks and drools, he’s the Dementia Democrat and he loses a lot of support. His ego, however, may be driving this. His caregivers will all tell him he won and he’ll believe it, because he’s dumb and a narcissist, and so he won’t do what’s the smart, low-risk play and get the media to back a boycott (“Trump is so mean that I will not dignify him with another debate and he’s also racist.”). The fact is that Biden peaked – it took two weeks of him calling a lid at the crack of dawn to get to the point where he merely did not spontaneously combust. Trump, however, has plenty of room for improvement, and plenty of ammo left to expend.

But, except for the nontraditional voters that the media cannot effectively measure, this debate changed nothing for us. No committed Trump voter defected. Maybe we got some independents. And within 24 hours, some other nonsense will displace this debate from our consciousness, relegating it to the same kerfuffle dumpster as Russian collusion, “suckers and losers,” and the tax returns showing Trump paid what he owed and is not in hock to the Kremlin.

[Sertorius]

Even Mitt Romney was best when he came out swinging against Obama. Then he retreated again and lost the election.

[ClearCase_guy]

Trump can pretty much say or do anything within the bounds of the expected and keep his followers, but if Biden vapor locks and drools, he’s the Dementia Democrat and he loses a lot of support.

Sums it up nicely. Biden's supporters are a coalition of sensitive types who are prone to take offense and "cancel" anyone who displeases them. Some will stay home because Joe isn't good enough.

[Liz]

BARF BAG ALERT Early surge of Democrat voting worries GOP
The Day (Washington Post article) | September 30, 2020 | Amy Gardner & Josh Hawsey / FR Posted by bort

"In North Carolina and Georgia, for instance, one in five voters who have already cast ballots didn't even vote in 2016, McDonald said. Mail ballot requests are up astronomically in dozens of states; the figure is 350% in Michigan, for instance, when compared to 2016.

In North Carolina, 17 times more people have requested ballots than four years ago; in Wisconsin, requests were up by a factor of 12, according to internal RNC data. The fact that more Democrats have not just requested their ballots but have also turned them in is also a reversal of the trend in prior elections, McDonald said. It means one of two things, he added: That Democrats are more enthusiastic and are filling out their ballots quickly, or that Republicans are holding onto their ballots despite requesting them, out of concern over potential fraud.

"It could be that they're listening to Donald Trump, and even though they are requesting a ballot, they are going to vote in person if they vote at all," he said. Additionally, younger voters are a much smaller share of the voters who have already cast ballots so far than was the case overall in 2016 - leading him to believe that most young people, the majority of whom will support Biden, will vote much closer to Nov. 3 or on Election Day itself.

"I can't say with certainty that this is going to carry through," he added. "But everything that's happened over the past couple of decades, and our understanding of how people vote, is being upended in this election." (Excerpt) Read more at theday.com ...

"Biden backers are more enthusiastic about their candidate than those backing Trump," says one analyst......
<><> "huge numbers of Democrats have requested mail-in ballots,"
<><> "are filling them out quickly, and,"
<><> "have already turned them in weeks before the election."

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This story is so bogus.....there is no enthusiasm at the grassroots level for Biden.

The Dems are working overtime, putting a false face on orchestrated voter fraud.

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So where are all these "enthusiastic" Biden voters when Biden has campaign events in their towns?

A Biden campaign event in a liquor store parking lot. Six people show up to hear Jill speak.

Where are the party regulars? The elected locals...the people expected to get the vote out?

[Mr. K]

Wallace should have let Trump speak, and when he was done remind him of the rules he agreed to.

That’s his job- not to interrupt and participate in the debate on Biden’s behalf.

Who is the NEXT liberal media hack moderating?

Why is it ALWAYS liberals running these debates??

[LouieFisk]

“Trump can pretty much say or do anything within the bounds of the expected and keep his followers”
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The hardcore base doesn’t need to be won over, especially at this point.(If it does need to be convinced, that’s not a good sign.)
It’s the voters that had previously given their states to Dems, but changed the pattern in 2016 to vote Trump. That’s what needs to won ever; flip states have a way of flip-flopping between parties.

[MuttTheHoople]

Schlichter LiEs!!!!!!!!!!!

Navy he was blasting rails off the taut bellies of hookers 

Those hookers' bellies weren't taut.

[Kaslin]

Washington Compost! Enough said

[tet68]

he was blasting rails off the taut bellies of hookers

Those hookers’ bellies weren’t taut.

As much as he was paying them, they should have been
as tight as snare drums.

[Buttons12]

Why is it ALWAYS liberals running these debates??

Maybe because when it's not a liberal, the Democrat candidate absolutely rejects the suggestion and refuses to participate.

Meanwhile, Republicans always try to accommodate and cooperate in the ambush of themselves.

[MCEscherHammer]

The only way Sleep Joe wins is through mail-in ballot fraud...PERIOD!

[Liz]

Amen.....Democrats have been working behind the scenes for months.....putting in “the fix” for Biden.

Oh, well.......Hillary was a shoo-in, too.