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How a Pledge to Dismantle the Minneapolis Police Collapsed. When a majority of City Council members promised to “end policing as we know it” after George Floyd’s killing, they became a case study in how idealistic calls for structural change can falter.
New York Times ^ | September 26, 2020 | Astead W. Herndon

Posted on 09/28/2020 10:58:27 AM PDT by karpov

MINNEAPOLIS — Over three months ago, a majority of the Minneapolis City Council pledged to defund the city’s police department, making a powerful statement that reverberated across the country. It shook up Capitol Hill and the presidential race, shocked residents, delighted activists and changed the trajectory of efforts to overhaul the police during a crucial window of tumult and political opportunity.

Now some council members would like a do-over.

Councilor Andrew Johnson, one of the nine members who supported the pledge in June, said in an interview that he meant the words “in spirit,” not by the letter. Another councilor, Phillipe Cunningham, said that the language in the pledge was “up for interpretation” and that even among council members soon after the promise was made, “it was very clear that most of us had interpreted that language differently.” Lisa Bender, the council president, paused for 16 seconds when asked if the council’s statement had led to uncertainty at a pivotal moment for the city.

“I think our pledge created confusion in the community and in our wards,” she said.

The regrets formalize a retreat that has quietly played out in Minneapolis in the months since George Floyd was killed by the police and the ensuing national uproar over the treatment of Black Americans by law enforcement and the country at large. After a summer that challenged society’s commitment to racial equality and raised the prospect of sweeping political change, a cool autumn reality is settling in.

National polls show decreasing support for Black Lives Matter since a sea change of good will in June. In Minneapolis, the most far-reaching policy efforts meant to address police violence have all but collapsed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Minnesota; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1619project; andrewjohnson; asteadwherndon; blm; defund; georgefloyd; lisabender; minneapolis; minnesota; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; phillipecunningham; police
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To: karpov

George Floyd wad not “killed”, he dief of an overdose, suicide maybe, accidental death most likely.


21 posted on 09/28/2020 11:27:13 AM PDT by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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To: karpov

Note to the NYT: You can’t unring a bell.


22 posted on 09/28/2020 11:30:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: karpov

“After a summer that challenged society’s commitment to racial equality...”

This is how the NYT stylebook renders “After a summer of intense public anger at a gargantuan increase in crime due to police reluctance to do their jobs...”


23 posted on 09/28/2020 11:33:24 AM PDT by untenured
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To: karpov

They don’t deserve a single police officer. What person of honor would serve that crowd? I hope they all leave and the last turns out the lights on his way home.


24 posted on 09/28/2020 11:37:22 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: karpov

They should have ended policing as they knew it when an unqualified muzzy they pushed onto the force murdered a White Australian Woman.


25 posted on 09/28/2020 11:40:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Watch debate. Alpha Male vs sleepy joe. Tuesday 9 PM Eastern.)
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To: nickcarraway

Collectivism feels bad about cause and effect.


26 posted on 09/28/2020 11:46:49 AM PDT by lurk
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To: karpov

“Things Retards Do” would have been a shorter headline...


27 posted on 09/28/2020 11:50:05 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: karpov

Getting rid of the police is/was a bad idea.

Even worse, riots, arson, looting, blocking traffic, physical assaults, and murder demonstrates just how bad an idea it is.


28 posted on 09/28/2020 12:03:16 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: karpov
idealistic calls for structural change

Translation: Commie plans to steal white people's stuff and then kill the white people afterwards.
29 posted on 09/28/2020 12:24:26 PM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: karpov

“I think our pledge created confusion in the community...”

No, it didn’t. The cops, the criminals, and the crime victims clearly understood what you said.


30 posted on 09/28/2020 12:40:47 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: karpov

Another miserable failure by virtue signaling, social justice idiots. They always fail and the never take responsibility.


31 posted on 09/28/2020 12:47:07 PM PDT by Bayan
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To: karpov

I think this is an example when you vote the childishly immature into a city council. It is not only the polls but I am sure they are now being yelled at by their stupid constituents who have changed their minds that are based on emotions of the moment now that they see the reality of crime running rampant. They deserve each other.


32 posted on 09/28/2020 1:33:26 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: karpov

It collapsed because crime victims of all races correctly blame the Communist Democrats for putting them in harm’s way. Once the Communist Democrats saw the polling numbers they freaked and reversed themselves. It’s too late; let their ridiculous claims be linked to them forever.


33 posted on 09/28/2020 1:35:10 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: karpov

It used to be that people elected people that had some sense. People that were supposed to think calmly and make rational decisions. People that were supposed to not be swayed by mob mentality.
Sadly, those days are long over and idiots get put into places of authority and the people suffer. The left can’t have their direct democracy so they elect idiots that make it almost as bad.


34 posted on 09/28/2020 1:48:59 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: PGR88

“It became a case study of stupidity meeting reality.”

Right; getting rid of the police sounded hip until there were no cops.

I think we should compromise; if people don’t pay for police services they don’t get them. The people with the most police encounters will have none at all...


35 posted on 09/28/2020 2:29:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: karpov
National polls show decreasing support for Black Lives Matter since a sea change of good will in June.

This makes no sense, probably on purpose.

36 posted on 09/28/2020 5:39:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: karpov

“since George Floyd was killed by the police”

Here we go again!


37 posted on 09/28/2020 5:48:58 PM PDT by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the Wall!)
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