Posted on 09/23/2020 8:26:08 PM PDT by rxsid
Exactly.
If these are the rates without a vaccine, the vaccine is NOT needed.
You mean like not sticking sick patients in nursing homes full of elderly individuals with other serious medical conditions?
To all, I am over 60 years of age. I smoke too much, probably drink more than I should, lol. I am retired but work part-time as a bartender. Since March I have served 100s and 100s of people. None of us wear a mask. Also, in March when all this COVID-19 nonsense was picking up steam I was doing a lot of international travel. In a two week period I was in 13 international airport in close contact with thousands of people, no masks.
I have never gotten a flu vaccine and sure as hell don’t want to take any for COVID-19. I worked for the federal government for three decades. I really don’t trust anything the government says is good for you.
Most likely much higher!!I have always maintained that h1n1 was much more deadly than the wuflu.
>> Arguments against vaccination are political and Scientifically ignorant
Thanks for the political statement, doc.
>> the vaccine is NOT needed.
It’s good to have a vaccine — something available to those that believe they need it. Promising numbers nonetheless.
Retired and a part-time bartender — nice!
Neither am I interested in factory solution for a virus that has an extremely low mortality impact.
That equals 33 million USA infections.
What!
Fauci has deliberately low balled his infection rate to make the fatality rate look higher.
Someone tell Fauci to read the CDC data on the posted link:
“Mean ratio of estimated infections to reported case counts, Overall (range) - 11 (6, 24)”
Mean ratio = 11
Confirmed USA Cases = 6.9 million.
Multiply 6.9 X 11 = 75.9 million total estimated infections.
USA population = 330 million
Divide 75.9 by 330 = 23% of Americans infected.
Even the LOWEST estimated ratio - 6 - produces a number higher than Fauci’s 33 million.
6.9 (confirmed cases) X 6 (lowest estimated ratio) = 41.4 million.
The total number of infections is important because a higher case rate means a lower fatality rate.
If the survival rate is 94.6% greater than 70 that’s 1/20. Deaths in this cohort. I am sorry you can’t do simple math. Go back to eating your crayons and coloring outside of the lines you idiot
Vax only give a very limited immunity to the virus. For ex if a virus has 20 antigenic sites and you get it. .. your body will make antibodies to more than 1 site.
A vax will only provide a response to the antigenic sites in it. So exponentially less immunity. That is not herd immunity.
Getting the virus equals more antibodies to multple sites.. also mathematically better immunity than a vax ever will.
Especially. An. RNA. Virus. Their very nature is to change antigenic sites.. quickly. So a vax will be mathematically ineffective by the time it reaches the market.
But who could resist such a cash cow like an rna virus vax. Cha Ching.
Comply to the lie.
You see incorrect. There are complications with both therapies. I have no idea how or why you would make such a blanket statement. Additionally while I have prescribed both therapies I am also here to tell you they do not work 100%. If they did it would be obvious we can move on.
There is no silver bullet cure. Furthermore, prevention and immunization is a good standard in terms of disease management. Prevention is preferable to cure. I read that somewhere along the lines in a certain oath I once took
So you believe we all should be prisoners in order to possibly prevent 5% of a certain age group from becoming ill wghen that certain age group could simply either isolate themselves or take the flu shot?
How remarkably selfish.
Absolutely. And Pfizer eith phase thee of 44,000 with only 30 infections in the cohort plus stimulation of immunity works for me
I didn’t read that yesterday but it has been common knowledge for about three months. It’s why the so called disappearance of antibodies in the blood stream in ninety days is. It a problem as immunity moves into T cells. It’s also worth noting that multiple vaccines are noted to stimulate T cell and antibody immunity simultaneously.
I absolutely agree. The shit down was idiotic.
Deplorable? No. Misinformed? Yes
But nice try attempting to put words in my mouth that I have never said in order to try to deflect away from the facts. That’s the argument technique of liberals and four year olds although one dojo’s make the case that they are one in the same.
I know exactly what you said and you are incorrect. Vaccination theory is about achieving herd immunity on an artificial instead of natural time line. While there are individual reasons to get the vaccine there are also epidemiological reasons as well. Vaccine is not entirely about each individual.
Thanks for the clarification. Having not seen it I believed it sounded like a wag. I would take to the bank your reporting of it. Please forgive my statement. I stand corrected.
Arguments arguments against a vaccine created in 6 months with only 6 months of data are wise. Get back to me in 5 years.
And while we’re waiting herd immunity at all schools not shutdowns is the best science.
It’s Thursday September 24, 2020
Good Thursday morning, Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF1lqEQFVUo
Who has support nationally and internationally? Who funds worldwide and domestically? Who has support from the powerful to the not so powerful? Who has international agency support and domestic agency support? Who has foreign government support? Who is beyond questioning from our government? Who can destabilize/depopulate any place world-wide including The United States of America?
What HAPPENS when the 2 most EVIL individuals in the world ARE Americans?
nothing
1. George Soros
2. Bill Gates
Let that sink in, Americans
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