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To: blueplum

Indeed I was thinking something similar the other day.

Why are they so intent on destroying our white cultural heritage? Our European descent? The phrase ‘white supremacy,’ is contorted now to mean anything of European enlightenment history.

While we look at this from the narrow lens of the United States it is difficult to realize this BLM movement is happening worldwide. Just as we watch the virus response globally and see the same lockdowns, one can see similar actions in other nations regarding the idea of ‘white supremacy being acted upon.

Part and parcel to this attack on western civilization is the persons who are claiming to be victims of it...have no past before and no known history before it. All they have is their ancestors were stolen, sold, and enslaved. As hard as they try to embrace Africa as a culture point, they cannot. So that historic point on their culture scale is lost for eternity. It is lost as that unlike other cultures around the world familial lines of history have basically been wiped away. The only solid reference point is when they came in contact with Europeans or Arabs.


60 posted on 09/17/2020 2:29:48 AM PDT by EBH (This had better be the last time I vote like my entire life depended on it.)
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To: EBH

What is happening worldwide is that whites won’t breed - so they are a shrinking population everywhere, taking sh!t from the Thirdworlders they’ve imported into their countries.


64 posted on 09/17/2020 3:39:29 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: EBH

“Part and parcel to this attack on western civilization is the persons who are claiming to be victims of it...have no past before and no known history before it. All they have is their ancestors were stolen, sold, and enslaved. As hard as they try to embrace Africa as a culture point, they cannot. So that historic point on their culture scale is lost for eternity.”

I’ve thought about your post and appreciate your discussion. I mostly disagree with the ‘stolen, sold enslaved’ narrative. It seems more accurate to say, enslaved, sold and deported as slaves.

Transactions were between a merchant trading goods and an African king, with slaves delivered to ports that the kings built and maintained. Muslim law allowed the taking and selling of nonmuslims, and later, the taking and selling of muslims, so the kings were acting under their own laws for their own benefit. Unlike kidnapped europeans who truly were ‘stolen’, the individuals weren’t free, autonomous persons but either generational slaves or conquered ‘enemies’ who comprised the kingdom’s agricultural labor force. (Not to diminish that some men also were versed in other skills of the day that gained them privilege and proved of great benefit to the new owners in the colonies).

The kings sold their slaves to be able to afford wars and to maintain power. And as powerful as the kings were at the time, with their own massive armies controlling the populace, it probably wasn’t very common for a random Portuguese pirate to be running through the jungle looking for random persons to capture without being challenged and likely killed for his efforts by the mounted patrols that guarded the kingdoms. So there was no stealing in the true sense of the word any more than an indentured servant in London whose contract was sold to a ship’s captain to be trafficked in the colonies was ‘stolen’.

I do understand the feeling of detachment, tho. Worse than a simple man to man/town to town transaction, it was their own kings that sold and deported them. That’s an immense betrayal. But the kingdoms have long collapsed and no longer exist. There is no touchstone. And no leader in modern Africa is willing to step forward to offer an acknowledgement of Africa’s ‘original sin.’ Whether it be land grants, ‘reparations’ or a simple apology.

Unlike African nations, western civilization hasn’t the luxury of pretending human trafficking didn’t exist; the descendants of those trafficked persons are part and parcel of our national identity. Although admittedly it’s been two steps forward one step back at times, we acknowledged the moral wrongs and have tried to champion equality of all races including passage of many affirmative action laws that allow for preferential treatment. African nations would much rather pretend it was white men running through the jungle, capturing 10 million men one or two at a time without anybody seeing or knowing - even though it defies all time-math and logic. But that is the narrative that is repeated and reinforced. Much to the continued detriment of race relations in western lands and in perpetuating the sense of unwelcome and even hostility towards westerners in African lands and their own lands.

A well-researched documentary on the medieval slave-based west-African kingdom of Songhai:
The Songhai Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfUT6LhBBYs


82 posted on 09/18/2020 2:51:48 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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