Chinese Whistleblower to Tucker Carlson: Coronavirus Was Man-Made And Released Intentionally

Townhall.com ^ | September 16, 2020 | Matt Vespa

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RE: One last thing about the COVID-19 Spike protein is that there’s a thing in it called a “furin-cleavage site”. It’s a little complicated, but basically, furin-cleavage sites don’t exist in the particular line of coronaviruses that COVID-19 is associated with, and the ones that do exist are about 60% different from the furin-cleavage site in COVID-19’s Spike protein. Basically, it’s like COVID-19’s furin-cleavage site came out of nowhere.

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OK, this illustration more or less, illustrates Dr. Li Ming Yan's argument in regards to the above paragraph:



Here is the Counter Argument as reported by an interview the Daily Beast made with Dr. Angela Rasmussen, Virologist at Columbia University.

She said that the paper misrepresented basic facts about another part of coronavirus spike proteins known as furin cleavage sites.

The authors claim that SARS-CoV-2’s cleavage site is “unique” and unseen elsewhere in nature. But according to Rasmussen, “Furin cleavage sites occur naturally in many other beta-CoVs, including MERS-CoV and other SARS-like bat coronaviruses.”

Regardless of WHO is behind the study, the argument is SCIENTIFIC and should stay that way. THOSE COUNTER ARGUMENTS ARE SCIENTIFIC AND NEED TO BE REFUTED — SCIENTIFICALLY.

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The communist Chinese knew the western progressives would react the way they have because they planned it with them!! That the plan was and is so successful is the only surprise!

Come on, man!!!

[bray]

Nov 2019 is probably when it was actually released to the West Coast.

[Travis McGee]

[Travis McGee]

[farming pharmer]

OK, which reliable source gives this report?

Chinese general. Last 20 years or so. Look it up yourself. I'm not your librarian.

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RE: Chinese general. Last 20 years or so. Look it up yourself. I’m not your librarian.

I’ll take that as “I’m just saying this for the heck of it”.

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Yes, those communists are known for respecting the sanctity of life. (eye roll)

[grey_whiskers]

The issue isn't that a furin cleavage site has never been seen in nature.

It's that, if COVID-19 evolved naturally, you'd see the furin-19 cleavage site, in its nearest relatives: the most closely related coronaviruses.

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ONE.

And then you go to the coronaviruses that DO have a furin cleavage site.

And their genetic sequence, around the spike, is only a 60% match to the COVID-19 spike.

AND (which you conveniently left out) COVID-19's spike, has on either side of it, genetic sequences which are used to cut-and-paste sections of genes in the lab.

Why are you quoting the Daily Beast?

Why are you spreading baldfaced lies about Yan's argument?

'COVID-19's furin site is unique and not found in nature' IS NOT THE SAME THING AS

'there has never been a furin cleavage site anywhere else'.

[traderrob6]

“But China DID suffer the results. Wuhan had tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousand ( unreported ) of deaths.”

Acceptable incidental fatalities. If you think the Chinese government has the even the slightest concern about killing their own citizens to enhance their power, you really ARE naive.

[volunbeer]

An accidental leak much earlier than reported - followed by a deliberate spread to the West to make sure China didn’t go down alone. And Trump knows it. He has made oblique references to it several times, but the MSM seems to think he is just talking about China being careless.

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I think the same. Trump is pissed. He is not showing it much, but it is there when he speaks about it. He did a 180 in how he spoke about China and the virus in the midst of this and few seemed to notice. He has not spoken to Xi since that moment.

Our national labs know this. The key thing she stated was that the virus was a “Frankenstein” in that it used coronavirus as its core, but had pieces of other viruses in the genome.

This is not difficult to prove and our labs would know it. You could not hide it.... it would be obvious. Tucker’s Doctor of Doom afterwards remained skeptical but said one other thing that corroborated her - the unusual impact of this virus on various organs still confuses him. “We have not seen anything like this.”

Stay tuned.

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RE: Why are you spreading baldfaced lies about Yan’s argument?

I am simply quoting the Columbia University virologist. Your argument should be with her, not me, and it should be a SCIENCE BASED argument, not an ad hominem attack ( e.g., Steve Bannon was behind the paper’s publication ).

There have been experts on both sides of the issues. Let me copy and paste a post from a different thread:

A different article with a discussion of the issue. Some scientists say no, another Russian scientist says, yes manufactured. (Dueling Russian Scientists!)

https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/the-case-is-building-that-covid-19-had-a-lab-origin/

“Scientific assessments of the lab escape theory

On April 17 the Australian Science Media Centre asked four Australian virologists: “Did COVID-19 come from a lab in Wuhan?“

Three (Edward Holmes, Nigel McMillan and Hassan Vally) dismissed the lab escape suggestion and Vally simply labeled it, without elaboration, a “conspiracy”. (No bias here!)

The fourth virologist interviewed was Nikolai Petrovsky of Flinders University. Petrovsky first addressed the question of whether the natural zoonosis pathway was viable. He told the Media Centre:

“no natural virus matching to COVID-19 has been found in nature despite an intensive search to find its origins.”

And a Norweigan Viralogist:

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/norwegian-scientist-says-covid-19-was-manufactured-claim-backed-by-ex-british-intel-head/

“A new study about the possible origin of the coronavirus has found that Covid-19 is not natural in origin.

The study, led by Norwegian virologist Birger Sorensen, has found that the coronavirus’s spike protein contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted.

“The inserted sequences should never have been published. Had it been today, it would never have happened. It was a big mistake the Chinese made. The inserted sequences have a functionality that we describe. We explain why t...”

(Link to story behind a pay-firewall.)

I believe there are MERITS to opening up the paper to the public like you and me to read instead of submitting it to a scientific journal peer review which may or may not even be published.

That means IN EFFECT, an open peer review ( both pros and cons ) for everyone, even in the scientific community to refute or support.

My personal verdict as of today: My verdict: Possible... still needs to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[veracious]

Agree with the title; both counts.

[grey_whiskers]

Yan’s argument IS science.

The DailyBeast is spreading ink in the water, by deliberately misquoting Yan’s argument.

And doing so in a way that plants in the casual user’s mind, the idea that Yan is misinformed (’Acktsually, there are all kinds of furin cleavages in coronaviruses, unlike Yan who said COVID_19’s furin is unique and not found in nature.’)

But YAN never said that! YAN said that THAT PARTICULAR GENETIC SEQUENCE for a furin cleavage site, doesn’t exist in nature.

And it is proven beyond the possibility of a shadow of a doubt, because the very virus given by the “natural occurence” apologists,

a) never shared a host with the Coronavirus precursors
b) indications are that it apparently can’t even infect its own supposed natural host (that is, it was most likely engineered too)

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Lol!

[Crucial]

Did slaveowners not respect the health of their own slaves for profit. The point is not to kill them but to control and use them. Its very easy to understand.

Now, what does this prove? It proves that China is reckless with its bioweapons technology. They issued new protocols for their high level biolabs after that, I believe in November. So the question is, does China really have control of its bioweapons?

[Vigilanteman]

Wow! If we had honest media, somebody would’ve asked that question!

[Deo volente]

Open Philanthropy Project. Interesting.

The usual suspects. Soros also in the background?

https://activistfacts.com/organizations/open-philanthropy-project/

[silverleaf]

My point
China “alone” did not bear the results
Shared with the world
Military thinking
If you’re going down, take the enemy with you

[Vaduz]

Looks like cracks are starting to show in the Chinese Communist Party.
World will keep closer tabs on them.