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Where are all the guns and ammo purchased under Obama?
american thinker ^ | 6/20/2020 | JOHN WATSON

Posted on 08/29/2020 12:48:51 PM PDT by bitt

During the last two years of the Obama administration, some unusual purchases were made. Large quantities of ammunition were purchased, as were firearms, mostly for somewhat obscure agencies or agencies with no real need for such weaponry. Estimates are that over 1 billion rounds of ammunition were ordered, which resulted in making ammunition scarce for the normal civilian market.

Also significant was Obama's troublesome statement made during his campaign, as follows

We cannot continue to rely only on our military ... we've got to have a civilian security force just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set.

What national security objectives? Surely, he is not talking about arming the civilian population, as he wants to disarm us. Why would he want such a "civilian security force"? Could it be that he realized he couldn't use the U.S. military to enforce his social dysfunction for multiple reasons? One is the Posse Comitatus laws, and another was the simple fact that the military likely would refuse his orders. Looking below, we can see he was arming agencies under his Executive Branch control.

The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service spent $4.77 million purchasing shotguns, 7.62mm caliber rifles, night-vision goggles, propane cannons, liquid explosives, pyro supplies, buckshot, LP gas cannons, drones, remote-control helicopters, thermal cameras, military waterproof thermal infrared scopes and more.

The SBA loaded up their arsenals with Glock pistols. The Fish folks spent approximately $410,000 on their Glocks and rifles and modified their Glocks with silencers.

The Department of Health and Human Services was outfitted with sophisticated weaponry normally carried by Special Forces, stored at an undisclosed location.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; dsj03; guns; obama
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To: bitt

I read where five billion rounds of .45’s were purchased; what does the gov’t need with that many and for what firearm?


21 posted on 08/29/2020 1:07:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: bitt

More rank and file armed employees in nonmilitary agencies than in the
USMC

Tom Coburn line report itemized $1.4 Billion in spending
https://www.openthebooks.com/the-militarization-of-america—open-the-books-oversight-report/

By 2013 DHS alone was armed for a 24 year Iraq War
https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/obama-homeland-security-vast-ammunition-purchases/


22 posted on 08/29/2020 1:09:04 PM PDT by silverleaf (A live Biden speech is like a solar eclipse: rare, and leaves everyone in the dark)
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To: bitt

Usually here at FR there is someone who knows/has insight. Lots of comments at the article site but no good info.


23 posted on 08/29/2020 1:10:03 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: rktman
I remember reading something about this a year or so ago. The article took the purchase apart and it really isn't out of line the way it was explained.

Predictably, most of the ammo was 9mm and 5.56. They claimed that they were having the same problem getting the stuff that the citizens were and that they need a ton more of the stuff than your normal weekend shooter does.

They were buying for FBI, CIA Boarder Patrol, ATF, Fish & Wildlife, Customs and a bunch of other alphabet agencies.

They broke the numbers down and according to the source the purchase would have supplied about 1/3 of what they would need for a year.

What helped me buy their story is that most all of the stuff was ball. A little of the pricey stuff but that looked to be ammo that they just bought because it was available.

I think it's probably legit. Whenever there's a panic, as soon as the market sees what's going on, they adjust to meet the demand.

Additionally, if the Feds shoot anything like the Kenosha LEO's, they probably really do need the practice ammo.

24 posted on 08/29/2020 1:12:45 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: bitt

I’ve got some.


25 posted on 08/29/2020 1:12:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: sport

Dittos to that.


26 posted on 08/29/2020 1:13:22 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy Mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: bitt
May have been Hussien laundering purchases and drop shipping elsewhere.

A form of Structuring so as the one agency (unknown)is cloaked by paperwork from having possession of the arms

27 posted on 08/29/2020 1:14:38 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure)
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To: bitt; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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28 posted on 08/29/2020 1:15:48 PM PDT by PROCON (Voting Democrat in November is tantamount to kneeling on the throat of Lady Liberty.)
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To: silverleaf
Hollowpoint bullets for the National Park Service?
Elk hunting?

Say you & your family are camping at a national park, and the drunk camped next to you attempts to steal your car, or rape your daughter. Who do you call? That's right - the National Park Service, and they will dispatch a "Law Enforcement Ranger" to assist you. I believe there are LEOs working for other agencies (such as USDA-FS & USDOI-BLM) with similar duties...

29 posted on 08/29/2020 1:17:18 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ('Urban Dictionary' - a website of the urban dicks, by the urban dicks, and for the urban dicks.)
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To: bitt

it’d prolly be an interesting audit


30 posted on 08/29/2020 1:17:47 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: bitt

Before everyone goes all ‘Deep-Statey’, I’ll wager most of these weapons and ammo are for building security and jobs that take them out in the “boonies.

Case in point. While I have never heard of the “Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service” I read their mission statement and i can see where having an sidearm or even shotgun would be handey if they had to go oversee the health of the “Price Potato Bean Plant’ colony’s population sustainability. Is this government agency really necesssary?? Dunno. But if I’m sent to the nether regions of Bum-phuck Idaho where I’m on dirt trails even a mule would have a hard time traveling, I’d like to be armed if I encounter some of the more unpredictable wildlife.

Same with the weather stations the Interior Department (should)keep in good repair.

Just saying. I’m open to better arguments.


31 posted on 08/29/2020 1:20:21 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: metmom

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32 posted on 08/29/2020 1:20:30 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: bitt

Clapper and Brennan have a bunker somewhere.


33 posted on 08/29/2020 1:21:20 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: bitt

There was a ship accident...


34 posted on 08/29/2020 1:22:00 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: bobby.223

How has it been going Brother Woof? Stay frosty because it may not be long until we see what we are made of. Myself, I am getting long in the tooth and more feeble each day. And may not be around. But I know you and NF Hale will give a good account of yourself.


35 posted on 08/29/2020 1:24:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: bitt

Where did Kenosha Lefty get his pistol?

DA doesn’t seem to have been curious about that.


36 posted on 08/29/2020 1:27:05 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: bitt

I call all of this “prepositioned supply depots” for our side.

L


37 posted on 08/29/2020 1:30:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: bitt
The SBA loaded up their arsenals with Glock pistols

Why? In case a lemon aide stand needs to be busted?

38 posted on 08/29/2020 1:32:53 PM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it is still legal! And often.)
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To: Fido969
Where did Kenosha Lefty get his pistol?

There were 2 photographed Kenosha Kommies with subcompact Glocks photographed during the day of duress. At least one of them attempted to kill Kyle before he shot him in self defense.

39 posted on 08/29/2020 1:35:23 PM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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To: bitt

MEXICO


40 posted on 08/29/2020 1:47:18 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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