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Leonard Cohen's estate slams RNC for playing 'Hallelujah' twice after denying Republican's request to use the song and considers legal action for the 'brazen attempt to politicize and exploit' it
UK Daily Mail ^ | August 29 2020 | REUTERS and MARLENE LENTHANG

Posted on 08/29/2020 12:31:44 AM PDT by knighthawk

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To: PlateOfShrimp

I don’t think the lyrics are vapid at all.

John Cale’s version on “I’m Your Fan” (a Leonard Cohen tribute album) deserves credit for popularizing the song. Cohen’s own version, done a couple of years earlier, comes off quite differently.

And, yes, it’s about a relationship.

Laughable about how artists - and now the “estate” of dead artists - somehow imagine they’re the ultimate authority on how songs can be heard. That’s all up to the people who own the publishing, and if the proper license has been obtained the opinion of the artist / estate means absolutely squat.


21 posted on 08/29/2020 4:18:11 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: PlateOfShrimp

Excellent comparison.


22 posted on 08/29/2020 4:22:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: MayflowerMadam

In the verses I have seen, each Bible reference is wrong.


23 posted on 08/29/2020 4:22:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: PlateOfShrimp
Herr Handel did it better.

Handel s Messiah

24 posted on 08/29/2020 4:25:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Tax-chick

“In the verses I have seen, each Bible reference is wrong.”

Wrong, and an overall a vapid song.


25 posted on 08/29/2020 4:25:58 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

When a person tries to equate the worship of his own phallus to the worship of God, “vapid” is, perhaps, the least bad possibility.


26 posted on 08/29/2020 4:30:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: knighthawk

I just read the lyrics. Blasphemous. Considering what hallelujah means. Of course he predicted people would call it this, so much so he wrote it into the lyrics. In reading the Wikipedia entry, this song is called the standard of hymns for secularism. If so, why can’t they get their own material? David is from the Bible. Surely secularism doesn’t need God’s Word to write a song.


27 posted on 08/29/2020 4:44:30 AM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: bagster
My favorite too, however I deliberately avoid it.

It's a several day ear worm for me.

Another song which, for me, is multiple day ear worm is
Home Free doing Ring of Fire.

28 posted on 08/29/2020 4:47:26 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: knighthawk

Used to like a few of his tunes decades back. But now I just find them depressing, so no thanks anyway.


29 posted on 08/29/2020 4:49:53 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: knighthawk

I wish people would listen to the damn lyrics of this song. It’s not religious, t’s not uplifting, it’s not inspirational. It’s about a destructive relationship.

QUOTE:
“love is a cold and broken hallelujah”

That’s hallelujah upside down!! And they play this thing in Shrek? And now the RNC? Can’t anyone understand words anymore???


30 posted on 08/29/2020 4:51:28 AM PDT by View from the Cheap Seats
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To: PlateOfShrimp
Do you like this version of Imagine?

Herman Cain

31 posted on 08/29/2020 4:56:51 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: knighthawk

Maybe they should sue Tori Kelly...


32 posted on 08/29/2020 5:07:32 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: PlateOfShrimp
Or this one.
33 posted on 08/29/2020 5:07:51 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Here is a link to an Easter version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbX4ZlmFVPw


34 posted on 08/29/2020 5:09:50 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: LeoWindhorse

Live performances are going to suffer in the future and it will take a long time to rebound.Music colleges will close etc. Hollywood is crumbling too. But music will be missed.


35 posted on 08/29/2020 5:13:20 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: period end of story

Lol


36 posted on 08/29/2020 5:22:42 AM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: View from the Cheap Seats

It’s often used in Latin American weddings. New lyrics that aren’t creepy have been written in Portuguese/Spanish.

I would still prefer to avoid it.


37 posted on 08/29/2020 5:30:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: ASA Vet

Imagine there’s no actors -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWKc-8ZkKHc


38 posted on 08/29/2020 5:35:41 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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To: Tax-chick

“When a person tries to equate the worship of his own phallus to the worship of God, ‘vapid’ is, perhaps, the least bad possibility.”

Re “Hallelujah” ... on the RNC Convention thread Thursday, I posted that I thought “Ave Maria” should have been balanced by adding another religious piece that wasn’t Mary centric for evangelicals (who got Trump elected in the first place). I was strongly attacked, BTW. I suggested “How Great Thou Art”. Also good would’ve been “Amazing Grace”.

Someone replied that the song, “Hallelujah” was sung and that accomplished the balance. Although I’d heard the song before I never had paid attention to the lyrics, so I Googled them. They were terrible — as you implied. I’m thinking, “Oh, no; that’s really bad.” Definitely not something for evangelicals and born-again Christians.

Then another post said some woman had written truly Christian lyrics to the music and those lyrics were used at the program. I never could find anything like that online. So I was confused. At this point in time I still don’t know what lyrics were sung, and don’t care much. Either would fall short if compared to “How Great Thou Art”.


39 posted on 08/29/2020 5:35:52 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

(“ I cannot understand the depth of moral depravity and political mental retardation that infects the minds of American Liberal Jews these days . ”)

Have you read the OT accounts in Kings and Chronicles of Judah and Israel? There were many depraved Jews then even when they were given charge of the oracles of God.

In the NT in the first chapter of the Gospel of John it says, “He (Jesus) came to his own, but they received him not. But as many received him to these gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.” (John 1:11,12)

Men are sinful creatures. Those feigning works of righteousness should be suspect. But modern Jews are generally very liberal and are diametrically opposed to OT teachings, or pay lip service. Romans 1,2 shows that gentiles and Jews have nothing to boast about before God. The only thing that pleases God is the righteousness of faith, and faith in His Son.


40 posted on 08/29/2020 5:36:41 AM PDT by nonsporting (Aim small, miss small.)
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